[UK-CONTEST] Re GW7HOA/P - I'm disappointed

Don Field don.field at gmail.com
Wed Aug 19 08:01:49 PDT 2009


James

I apologise if my posting of Dave Wilson's response was hasty and
ill-judged. But Adrian had specifically asked in his post whether the
Contest Committee was listening.

While we have said in the past that complaints should be raised directly
with the Committee, there have been suggestions that we do not always react
(which I don't believe is true, but that's another matter).

In this case, should Adrian's statement prove to be justified, there were
strong grounds for disqualification of the entry concerned - "bringing the
hobby into disrepute". Therefore I felt that we needed to be seen to have
investigated. Otherwise wqe might well be accused of ignoring a potentially
embarrassing situation. Adrian has argued that he didn't mention callsigns
but, as we all know, results are public and the locator square would be a
giveaway.

I still am unable to decide which of the proponents has given the more
accurate account, but I remain unhappy at the way the matter was raised by
Adrian.

Don G3XTT

2009/8/18 James Hill <jrh at g0fhm.net>

> Guys,
>
> Seeing as everybody who has vented on this particular subject has chosen
> to do it in public, then here is my 2 pennorth.
>
> I sit on no particular fence here, and have no particular bias, one way
> or the other, let's be very clear about that from the beginning.
>
> I'm shocked and deeply upset that grown individuals should resort to
> such low down tactics. Ok, the original poster vented his spleen. No
> names/callsigns were mentioned, but certain individuals took it upon
> themselves to turn this nasty. There may be history between the original
> poster and the group of contesters in question (and, the Contest
> Committee possibly?). That should stay between them, and them only, and
> not be bought to bear for the rest of the reflector to read. Likewise,
> any personal thoughts regarding other members should be kept between the
> individuals concerned (ie PRIVATE).
>
> And, I'm deeply saddened by the actions of 2 individuals, who were up
> until this (in my eyes anyway) respected individuals within the RSGB.
>
> Dave, M0OBW -
>
> By all means defend your groups actions. However, the opening paragraph
> contains some seriously inappropriate remarks regarding a fellow
> amateur, bordering on libellous and defamatory. Who cares? I dont want
> to know the history of another amateur, any more than  any of you would
> want to know mine. I feel that this behaviour is VERY inappropriate for
> somebody holding the office of president-elect of our national society.
> I am very disappointed, and have no confidence in you after this little
> incident.
>
> Don, G3XTT -
>
> What can I say? I'm saddened that you saw fit to forward on a "unedited
> and unabridged" email that contained such material. Forward on M0OBW's
> defence of their actions by all means, but to include that first
> paragraph and it's potentially damaging comments, was sheer lunacy. In
> many peoples eyes, you have shown yourself to be of a level no higher
> than the president-elect, and have, in effect aided and abetted "the
> crime" (figure of speech - I am aware that no crime in law has been
> committed - except maybe Public Order Act 1986 S.5,1,B - A person is
> guilty of an offence if he:— Displays any writing, sign or other visible
> representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting).
>
> All I want to do, is to read emails from this reflector regarding
> contesting. Most of the OT stuff is "passable", but there is a hard core
> of a few, who like to get involved in their own personal "flame wars",
> and degrade the experience for all of us.
>
> Honestly, I'd expect that kind of behaviour from a playground full of 5
> year olds, but not from a group of 30/40/50/60/70+ something RADIO
> AMATEURS who are supposed to be GENTLEMEN and be good ambassadors for
> our hobby.
>
> Get "ragchewing" at rallies etc, and it would appear that a lot of
> people hold the RSGB in very low esteem, and are lapsed members who have
> no intention of rejoining for whatever reason (and there are many).
> Conduct such as this is hardly going to do the society any good
> whatsoever, if word gets around that high up members are behaving in
> such a way.
>
> This is my first and final word on this matter. Like I said at the
> beginning, I HAVE NO PARTICULAR ALLEIGANCE to any party in this matter,
> and all I wish to do, is register my shock and utter disgust at the way
> that certain individuals have seen fit to act.
>
> Case closed, in my eyes.
>
> James G0FHM
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