[UK-CONTEST] Death to the cluster!

[Rob Harrison]

Paul,

That's the very reason you see so few regulars spot on the cluster, fear of 
disqualification, as the rules can be interpreted in different ways. So if 
in doubt, don't spot.

Bob G8HGN

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "g3ydy" <g3ydy at blueyonder.co.uk>
To: "Ray James" <gm4cxm at yahoo.co.uk>; <uk-contest at contesting.com>; 
"G3YYDDavid" <g3yyd at btinternet.com>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Death to the cluster!


>
> Ray,
>
> Would you do you have to say about the following.
>
> Rule 4 i
> Starts of with the banning message and the exceptions then comes this
> statement.
>
> "You may spot a DX station as long as your operating frequency is not
> given." So presumably If I have been calling CQ for a while on my 
> favourite
> frequency then switch into S & P mode, work that nice bit of DX up the 
> other
> end of the band I can now spot it, because it's not my frequency, thus
> making the banned statement null and void and without fear of being
> disqualified. The problem is though - Adjudicators would not necessarily
> know that I had changed frequency because the contest log does not give
> actual frequency only band where as the Cluster gives frequency. Whilst I
> don't think I have broken any rules I guess I would be disqualified.
>
> The list of do's and don'ts are
>    1. Do spot DX you have worked or heard when tuning the band for the
> benefit of all.
>    2. Do use the DX cluster to help you find DX during the contest.
>    3. Don't use the DX cluster to help the DX find you.
>    4. Don't ask other stations that you work to "please spot me"
>    5. Don't spot DX you've just worked on your frequency.
>    6. Don't spot your fellow team member (if operating in team/multi band
> contests e.g. UKAC, AFS, VHF NFD etc).
>
> In the case mentioned above from the list of do's and don'ts
> 1. Would or should be OK
> 3. Could alert a DX station to hunt me out
>
> I think Generally since the rule was introduced in May 200? every one is
> afraid to show their callsign on the cluster or KST for fear of
> disqualification.
>
> I wonder what the CC have to say about this?
>
> Paul
>
> G3YDY
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ray James
> Sent: 11 December 2009 16:05
> To: uk-contest at contesting.com; G3YYDDavid
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Death to the cluster!
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 10/12/09, David, G3YYD <g3yyd at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>
>> In the case of VHF and above contests, with such low
>> contest station density and highly directional antennas DX Clusters are
>> essential in maximising the number of QSOs. In fact I would suggest the
>> organisers of VHF and above contests should positively encourage DX
>> cluster spotting (but not self spotting) so as to maximise the perceived
>> activity. It would help those guys in the Celtic fringes of the UK to
>> make many more QSOs.
>
> Good points David,
> The new CC rules do ask for more spotting but as written elsewhere, that 
> has
> now been left to non-competitors as those competing jealosly hold onto
> valuable point/multiplier earning contact information when they do come
> across something juicy. Giving away that information is now tantamount to
> shooting yourself in the foot.
>
> 73 Ray GM4CXM
>
>
>
>
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