[UK-CONTEST] Fw: Mega Stations

[David, G3YYD]

Dave

That is with HF band propagation now. In a few years time it will be 
different and like I said operation in the high power category leaves us 
officially at -6db compared to our competitors. This is a huge 
disadvantage. Imagine the size of antenna needed to make up that extra 
6dB. It would need a few hundred acres plus a set of very tall towers to 
make that up on 160m. Even on 10m it would be more like a HF broadcast 
antenna than even a very rich amateur antenna installation.

I do not see that saying just because others will cheat what ever the 
licensed power level is, should stop us from trying to get 1500watt 
licences. It is to put us on a similar level to our competitors. 
Otherwise to be competitive without running more than licensed power, UK 
stations will have to enter the 100 watts category and forget the high 
power category.

David G3YYD

Dave Lawley wrote:
> The problem is still going to be to keep some of the EU stations DOWN to 
>   1.5kW. This amplifier arms race is ruining it for everybody, and 
> ensuring that fewer and fewer can compete.
>
> And then there's the factor we can do nothing about - propagation. The 
> UK is most definitely in northern Eu rather than western Eu. On 15m I 
> have heard IR4M HG1S C4N 9A8A E73W DQ4W working Ws that I can't even smell.
>
> Dave G4BUO
>
> David, G3YYD wrote:
>   
>> I note the 4O3A SO2R position photo has circa 1500 watt output 
>> amplifiers. Isn't it about time we started  a vigorous movement to 
>> campaign for 1500 watts for a full licence? Then we can legally compete 
>> on a more even basis with the rest of the world. 6dB stronger makes a 
>> huge difference. (Many UK stations are sending 5NN4TT this weekend, 
>> but......)
>>
>> David G3YYD
>>
>> Clive Whelan wrote:
>>     
>>> You don't need a Henry 8K to get an rf burn. 10w ( that's t-e-n) is 
>>> sufficient when e.g. fed to a random wire on 160m. I still have the 
>>> scars on my finger tips to prove this, and the disgusting smell of 
>>> burning flesh is hard to forget :-(
>>>
>>> Those were the days my friends, I thought they'd never end: where did 
>>> they go?
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>>
>>> Clive
>>> GW3NJW
>>>
>>> Clive GM3POI wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Clive GM3POI" <gm3poi2 at btinternet.com>
>>>> To: "Ken Eastty" <ken.g3lvp at btinternet.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:11 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Mega Stations
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> That is slightly misleading. A Henry 8k is 8k DC input not RF out. But 
>>>>> still enough for an RF burn.  73 Clive GM3POI
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Ken Eastty" <ken.g3lvp at btinternet.com>
>>>>> To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:17 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Mega Stations
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> Great article in Radcom?by the VHF Manager about the 4O3A contest 
>>>>>>> station.
>>>>>>> I must get one of those!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73 David G4ASR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> The article goes a long way towards explaining why some stations are so
>>>>>> strong. There should be a separate contest category for stations like
>>>>>> this which can't be classified as 'amateur'. The 8kW amplifier (!) used
>>>>>> at 4O3A is only a couple of kW less than the GPO HF point-to-point
>>>>>> station SWB 8/10 TX's where we once worked produced. I wonder what (if
>>>>>> anything) the license conditions in Montenegro say about power levels?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>
>>>>>> G3LVP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> p.s. You are a big enough signal already!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
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