[UK-CONTEST] Fw: Mega Stations

[Dave Lawley]

Hi David

Nowhere did I say we shouldn't try to get 1500watt licences. But if we 
don't find a way of keeping the cheats down to 1.5kW we could still be 
at a 6Db disadvantage.

In recent times I have entered CQWW SSB in the Low Power category from 
home, for the reason you give: I do not feel I can be competitive on 
phone. Power differences seem to matter less on CW.

73, Dave G4BUO


David, G3YYD wrote:
> 
> I do not see that saying just because others will cheat what ever the 
> licensed power level is, should stop us from trying to get 1500watt 
> licences. It is to put us on a similar level to our competitors. 
> Otherwise to be competitive without running more than licensed power, UK 
> stations will have to enter the 100 watts category and forget the high 
> power category.
> 
> David G3YYD
> 
> Dave Lawley wrote:
>> The problem is still going to be to keep some of the EU stations DOWN to 
>> 1.5kW. This amplifier arms race is ruining it for everybody, and 
>> ensuring that fewer and fewer can compete.
>>
>> And then there's the factor we can do nothing about - propagation. The 
>> UK is most definitely in northern Eu rather than western Eu. On 15m I 
>> have heard IR4M HG1S C4N 9A8A E73W DQ4W working Ws that I can't even smell.
>>
>> Dave G4BUO
>>
>> David, G3YYD wrote:
>>   
>>> I note the 4O3A SO2R position photo has circa 1500 watt output 
>>> amplifiers. Isn't it about time we started  a vigorous movement to 
>>> campaign for 1500 watts for a full licence? Then we can legally compete 
>>> on a more even basis with the rest of the world. 6dB stronger makes a 
>>> huge difference. (Many UK stations are sending 5NN4TT this weekend, 
>>> but......)
>>>
>>> David G3YYD
>>>
>>> Clive Whelan wrote:
>>>     
>>>> You don't need a Henry 8K to get an rf burn. 10w ( that's t-e-n) is 
>>>> sufficient when e.g. fed to a random wire on 160m. I still have the 
>>>> scars on my finger tips to prove this, and the disgusting smell of 
>>>> burning flesh is hard to forget :-(
>>>>
>>>> Those were the days my friends, I thought they'd never end: where did 
>>>> they go?
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Clive
>>>> GW3NJW
>>>>
>>>> Clive GM3POI wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Clive GM3POI" <gm3poi2 at btinternet.com>
>>>>> To: "Ken Eastty" <ken.g3lvp at btinternet.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:11 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Mega Stations
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>>> That is slightly misleading. A Henry 8k is 8k DC input not RF out. But 
>>>>>> still enough for an RF burn.  73 Clive GM3POI
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Ken Eastty" <ken.g3lvp at btinternet.com>
>>>>>> To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:17 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Mega Stations
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> Great article in Radcom?by the VHF Manager about the 4O3A contest 
>>>>>>>> station.
>>>>>>>> I must get one of those!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73 David G4ASR
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> The article goes a long way towards explaining why some stations are so
>>>>>>> strong. There should be a separate contest category for stations like
>>>>>>> this which can't be classified as 'amateur'. The 8kW amplifier (!) used
>>>>>>> at 4O3A is only a couple of kW less than the GPO HF point-to-point
>>>>>>> station SWB 8/10 TX's where we once worked produced. I wonder what (if
>>>>>>> anything) the license conditions in Montenegro say about power levels?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> G3LVP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> p.s. You are a big enough signal already!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>