[UK-CONTEST] IOTA DXpeditions

Thu Jul 23 00:58:50 PDT 2009

 agree with Dave, costs should be split through out a group. We have split our costs evenly and it is the only way to go. And up to now - before we leave the farm - it is getting up towards £200.00 each. and for those who don't know......

 GW/IOTA EU-124 - The Strumblehead DX and Contest group have now sealed the final permission to activate Ramsey Island (EU-124), off the West Wales coast, from the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds who own the island. They will be active from 18:00 24th July through to 14:00 27th July taking in the IOTA contest. They will be active using the club call MC0SHL for the whole duration of the operation, and using MW9W in the contest. They will be on all bands from 80M through to 10M SSB. There is also some 30M RTTY planned by G1VDP if the other guys allow him, with participation in the last 80M Club Championships DATA section. They will be operational using generators as power. Radios used will consist of 2 K3's and a Yaesu FT1000MP MkV and amplifiers. Antennas will consist of a Hexbeam, a windom and dipoles. Most of the activation is for the WAB award scheme as the square is semi rare and has not been activated for some time.  The team will be on
 from the farm for a few days before and after using the GB0WFF for the World Flora and Fauna award see http://www.wff44.com for award details, and using the MC0SHL club call and erecting a tower for Rob MW0RLJ. The island will not only count for the WAB award but will also count for the WFF award. A special QSL card printed for both club calls, full details are on the groups website http://www.mc0shl.com . QSL via the groups manager M0URX.

hope to work you in/before/after the contest....

Chris Colclough
G1VDP
http://www.g1vdp.com
http://www.mc0shl.com
30M digi Group Member #1432

Tel: 024 7673 5940
Mob: 07505 359709
QTHR

--- On Wed, 22/7/09, Dave Sharred <g3nkc at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: Dave Sharred <g3nkc at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] IOTA DXpeditions
To: "UK-Contest" <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Date: Wednesday, 22 July, 2009, 7:08 PM

This is getting a bit pathetic.

You travel wherever you want to travel for the contest; and you are all
prepared to pay the cost and put in the time; other wise you wouldn't do it,
right ?!  Could be a plane to 6Y, a Scottish island, no matter - YOU commit
to your own plan, and clearly buy into  it !

Perhaps we should ask the Committee to introduce an "expense" category ??

For the record, I never remember people going over in droves to Anglesey; 1
group did (in the 3 years I was personally involved); and some locals also
came on for the contest ! And the 1 group never had multiple towers - we
lugged 1 tower up from the Midlands; and we used ginned scaffold poles for
all other antennae! It was not an easy option by any stretch of the
imagination !

And yes, a lot of folk were peeved when Anglesey was struck off for EU124;
and I guess I was.

I have moved on, suggest others do too. If they have a grievance with the
IOTA definitions, suggest you vent your spleen to the IOTA committee; it
ain't gonna help here !

Enjoy the contest at the weekend; revel in the RSGB's Premier contest which
you are dying to take part in !

73

Dave
G3NKC

-----Original Message-----
From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of tom wylie
Sent: 22 July 2009 18:24
To: Fred Handscombe
Cc: UK-Contest; G3NKC; G5LP
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] IOTA DXpeditions

Sorry Fred the amount I quoted was just for the ferry fare NOT for the
hire of vehicles or equipment.   I assume you didnt have to pay a Toll
on the menai strait bridge??

:-)    Tom

Fred Handscombe wrote:
> Without wishing to open a long dead can of worms; both Tom and Chris
> obviously have no idea how much it costs to hire a decent towing vehicle
for
> just one mobile mast (assuming you can actually find one available for
hire
> at all in the first place) for a 5 day weekend, let alone fuel it for a
> towing trip from East Anglia to NW Wales and over the bridge.
>
> Have a good IOTA Contest!  Its too hot for Dxpeditions in July!
>
> 73 Fred
> A65BD
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris G3SJJ" <g3sjj at btinternet.com>
> Cc: "UK Contest Reflector" <uk-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 2:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] IOTA DXpeditions
>
>
>
> Hi Tom, I recall there being a change of status but it wasn't connected
> with the contest. It was made by the IOTA Committee in a review of a
> number of island's status, (statii?) Whilst I have always enjoyed the
> contest I have never really understood the criteria used. I am always
> amused that mainland VK is OC001 That is one big island! I think the
> other changes were made after my time as adjudicator.
>
> Our GU8D trips were very expensive. Currently a car and two people costs
> £380 to Guernsey, I know 'cos I have just booked a week for Yvonne and
> myself in late August. In the early years of 1996 - 2001 we also had the
> additional cost of chartering a small boat to ship the gear over to
> Sark. They were good days though, we all had a great time and gained a
> lot of friends and knowledge of GU, including some excellent
> restaurants! The 15m pile-ups to JA on the Sunday morning were exciting.
> Aaah, if only now!!
>
> 73 Chris G3SJJ
>
>
>
> tom wylie wrote:
>
>> G3SJJ could probably gove you the definitive reason why Anglesey is no
>> longer considered an Island.
>>
>> I remember in the early days of the IOTA Contest, it costing a fortune
>> on ferries to take even one mobile mast or tower across to a Scottish
>> Island, even to the Island of Gigha which was only a 15 minute boat
>> ride. Our first venture in the mid 1990s cost us over £150 on ferry
>> fares which was our drinking money for the weekend ;-)
>>
>> In the meantime our English and Welsh friends were driving across the
>> Menai Straits bridge in their droves towing multiple trailers for free.
>> The rules of the Contest at that time permitted them to enter the same
>> category of Contest as all the teams travelling by boat to the Scottish
>> islands. I have to say we felt ourselves at a considerable disadvantage,
>> for Contesting purposes. Personally for the IOTA Scheme itself I
>> couldn't care less if Anglesey and Skye are counted as Islands or not,
>> but in order to make the playing-field level, the following rule was
>> added.
>>
>>
>> 5.2 The definition of DXpedition for this optional listing is one:
>> • where the island can only be reached by boat or air (islands which can
>> be accessed by bridge or causeway - man-made or natural - are not
>> eligible),
>>
>>
>> Don't you want to beat off the competition on a level playing field
>> where skill plays a part, or is it back to the good old days of win at
>> any cost????
>>
>> Oh, and I have just checked the rules as they are printed on the
>> Internet and I see NOTHING mentioned of a 10 minute rule. Me, I'd ignore
>> any reference to it - all you do is compound the rumour. If in doubt ask
>> G3XTT.
>>
>> Have a great weekend, enjoy the Island hopping, enjoy the Contest.
>>
>>
>> Tom
>> GM4FDM
>> Stewart Rolfe wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I gather recent IOTA eu124 status of Holy Island is due to some sort of
>>> 'cumulative' rule, viz -
>>>
>>> Ynys Mon -> Mainland = 196m = EU005 (<200m); Holy Island -> Ynys Mon =
5m
>>> = 201m -> Mainland = island (all measurements subject to arguments about
>>> state of tides etc...)
>>>
>>> But the argument above has just designated Ynys Mon as Mainland eu005
>>> therefore the 5m separation of Holy Island is to Mainland - isn't it??
>>> Circular logic or what?
>>>
>>> Perhaps the definitive algorithm is:- "rule -> silly result = silly
rule"
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF
>>>
>>> --- On Tue, 21/7/09, G3WPF <g3wpf at sky.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Holy Island on which Holyhead is
>>>> located is connected to Anglesey by both a
>>>> "bridge" and a causeway.
>>>>
>>>> Presumably, it counts because Anglesey is an island which
>>>> is not an island
>>>> and, although connected to the mainland, is not mainland
>>>> either.  So,
>>>> although Anglesey = EU-005 and you can pretty much .--.
>>>> across to Holy
>>>> Island, Holy Island obviously should be treated the same as
>>>> Puffin Island
>>>> (Priestholm/Ynys Seriol)?  Hmmm.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> Reg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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