[UK-CONTEST] [CDXC] Re: Short calls & the buro

Roger G3SXW g3sxw at btinternet.com
Fri Apr 30 07:05:49 PDT 2010

Tom, stop trying to enforce your narrow view.

I agree that 100% QSLing (contest or not) is bad.
I agree that 'live & live' is good.
I entirely disagree that stopping QSLs would somehow make a zillioneth of a 
percent contribution to this notion of 'saving the planet', a convenient 
slogan to support extraneous cases.

I believe that we have mostly already won the battle of the large contest 
stations generating 100% cards every year, leaving only some German stations 
who still need persuading. Don't forget, Tom, I also see large numbers of 
incoming cards (for myself, for VooDoo CG and for G3S sub-bureau). I see 
little evidence to support your contention that 'many larger contest 
stations pack the bureau with their cards'. Not true. Time for you to 
knicker untwist, old man. The latest mass QSLing was the German football, a 
couple of years, a serious (non-contest BTW) transgression.
73 de Roger/G3SXW/W7.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tom wylie" <thomaswylie at sky.com>
To: "UK Contest Reflector" <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] [CDXC] Re: Short calls & the buro

> No, No, No, No - No.
> Most contest QSL cards are generated by computer and many of the larger
> contest station appear to generate a QSL file direct from the ADIF File
> after the contest and pack the buro with their cards.   Every year after
> the CQWW Contest the buro is saturated with European cards that in
> reality very few people actually want or need.   By all means if you
> NEED a card ask for one, send for one, but don't just as a matter of
> course send/expect a QSL Card.    QSL cards are a throwback to the early
> days of radio when in order to confirm a QSL has taken place you
> exchanged a letter or later a card confirming the details.
> Newcomers to the hobby can now afford a decent radio, amplifier, antenna
> etc buit even with 100 watts it is a straight forward every day
> occurrence to work German, Italy, Spain, Slovenia, Poland, Russia - we
> dont need to confirm the QSO has taken place with a piece of paper.
> If you feel you need some form of confirmation - take up RTTY and print
> out each and every QSO you make, then you will have a form of written
> confirmation that a QAO took place.
> Now it seems you can even send your ADIF file to a guy in Israel who
> will print out and send all your buro cards for you..... in a block
> printing!!!
> I am also baffled by the fact that I receive cards via the buro, then
> when I reply to them, they are returned to me because the OTHER station
> is not a member of the buro - how did I receive the cards in the first
> place??
> QSL Cards are little more than waste paper and we should be more
> concerned with saving resources on our planet than printing glossy
> pieces of card that nobody wants.....
> Save our rain forest - stop QSLing.   With LOTW and E-QSL - who needs it??
> Tom
> Paul_group wrote:
>> On 29/04/2010 20:20, CHRIS COLCLOUGH wrote:
>>> This is another of the usual "I don't need the card so bin it attitude" 
>>> that most contesters have.
>> I agree entirely Chris, the very fact that someone sends you a card most
>> likely indicates that they probably rather like them and would want one
>> back.
>> The most common ones that I get from HF contests are from rtty contests
>> where often my card overlaps with theirs in the buro... I often get some
>> marked 2nd card PSE QSL! - so I suspect that person is fairly keen.
>> Perhaps contests should be limited to ONLY those people who take them
>> seriously and only propper contest modes .... casual operators, qsl
>> collectors and dx'ers should keep away, preferably move away from our
>> segement altogether then we can keep our high rates up... hello hello...
>> is there anyone still there ... cq test cq test.....
>> I am grateful for ANY qso during a contest and if that costs me a bit of
>> cardboard then so be it.
> -- 
> I am fully aware that my youth has been spent
> That my get up and go - has got up and went
> But I really dont mind when I think with a grin
> of all the great places my "get up" has been!
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