[UK-CONTEST] RSGB Contest Committee

[Peter Hobbs]

Cris

What started all this off is the laudable desire to disincentivise the 
(largely zone 15/16) channel hoggers in an event principally targetted 
at island activity.  If some of these guys should take umbrage as a 
result, then jolly goodoh I say.

73, Peter G3LET

cris at gm4fam.plus.com wrote:

>Roger SXW is 100% right.
>
>Can someone please explain to this simple soul why changing anything to
>affect an ever increasingly well supported event will make it more popular
>than it is already ?  Just what is wrong with IOTA's steady growth?  Has
>any opinion been sought from non-Island operators?
>
>Sounds like we are on the verge of a modern-age British phenomenon ie
>"steady chaps, this is all going too well - how can we screw it up a bit"?
>
>Or even the Japanese golf experience - they just loved the concept of
>hitting a little white ball until it went into a wee hole in the grass,
>and were getting very good at it; then some bright spark called in a
>sports psychologist a few 1000 miles west of here to tell them what a
>complicated game it really is, with the only predictable result.
>
>73 Cris
>GM4FAM
>
>  
>
>>Paul - you are repeating yourself, old man! Your case for IOTA stations
>>may
>>have some logic, but this is how it'd look for non-IOTAs:
>>
>>Me:    F5AA TEST
>>You:   DL1AA
>>Me:    DL1AA E  (you log 5)
>>You:   A (I log 1)
>>Me:    TU F5AA
>>
>>Pretty silly!  At bare minimum there must be (now it's me repeating) at
>>least two exchange-elements: signal report, serial number or IOTA
>>reference.
>>Or force call-sign exchange at every transmission - no thanks! Or IOTA
>>stations drop RST but non-IOTA still send it. Also pretty daft! There has
>>never been a contest with only ONE exchange-element - for good reason!
>>It's
>>too late to exclude non-IOTA/non-IOTA contacts from the contest.
>>
>>The broader issue here is QSO rate. If we CQ with replies every five
>>minutes
>>then this discussion is irrelevant. But running three QSOs per minute at
>>33wpm requires skill & accuracy and where the QSO 'shape' is essential.
>>Let's encourage operating-skills, not revert to the old days of 'Hello old
>>man, nice signal, 579 peaking S8'.
>>
>>Back to basics: it ain't broke, it's hugely popular, growing like
>>wild-fire,
>>could become the biggest contest in the world after CQWW. Let's not mess
>>with it for minor gain! Drop it, mate!
>>73 de Roger/G3SXW.
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Paul O'Kane" <pokane at ei5di.com>
>>To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
>>Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 1:46 PM
>>Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] RSGB Contest Committee
>>
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>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Andy Cook G4PIQ" <g4piq at btinternet.com>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>RST adds structure and makes us look a little less
>>>>ridiculous to non-contesters.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>I'd suggest that it's precisely the meaningless
>>>exchange of 59(9) in IOTA and other major HF
>>>contests that makes us look ridiculous to non-
>>>contesters and to many VHF+ contesters?
>>>
>>>Does anyone disagree?
>>>
>>>As for structure, we all know that when we call
>>>another station and hear our callsign, we expect
>>>to have to log whatever comes after the callsign.
>>>None of us needs extra time to get ready - we are
>>>contesters, and the Sprints have already shown
>>>that "what you don't expect, you don't miss".
>>>
>>>At the risk of stating the obvious, the only way
>>>to shorten the IOTA exchange is to remove one or
>>>more of the exchange elements.
>>>
>>>The IOTA Reference has to stay because it affects
>>>points and multipliers.  The leaves 5NN or Serial
>>>to be dropped - and why drop an element that has
>>>to be copied on-air, and can't be pre-filled by
>>>logging software?
>>>
>>>Here's what the structure of an IOTA QSO would
>>>look like.
>>>
>>>Me:    EI5DI TEST
>>>You:   G2XYZ
>>>Me:    G2XYZ 091 EU115  (you log 091 EU115)
>>>You:   026 EU5          (I log 026 EU5)
>>>Me:    TU EI5DI
>>>
>>>A change too far?  Hardly!
>>>
>>>73,
>>>Paul EI5DI
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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