[UK-CONTEST] 70 MHz Trophy

[John Lemay]

I agree. There's too muck luck (or lack of) in Sporadic E.

Tropo on the other hand encourages us to build an effective station in a
good location, and to take time and effort in winkling out the weak ones.

In addition, the wrong sort of sporadic E simply fills the band with east
European broadcast stuff which does no-one any favours.

Points per km, and radial rings are both linear scoring systems (broadly
speaking) and so I see no advantage in one over the other. As for a maximum
score per qso, no thanks ! 

John G4ZTR

-----Original Message-----
From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Rob Harrison
Sent: 24 July 2010 08:27
To: Ken Eastty; uk-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] 70 MHz Trophy

I can see why the presence of Es during a contest is going to be seen a 
beneficial, more contacts and "exotic" DX.

But it does rather make the contest a lottery.

I've mentioned radial rings in other correspondence to VHFCC, but it was 
seen as a step back into the past. However if the system makes for more 
balanced scoring, why not a least try it again.

Bob G8HGN

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Eastty" <ken.g3lvp at btinternet.com>
To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] 70 MHz Trophy


>
> I completely disagree (especially as I don't work 6m & have no interest
> in the band apart from very occasional /P operation when on holiday).
> I really don't care whether there's an SpE opening or not during a 4m
> contest and I don't think that it makes sense to score points/km for SpE
> QSO's. We don't score in this way on the HF bands so why do so on VHF?
> It's easy to work DX via E's if you happen to be in the right spot even
> 20W of FM to an indoor vertical dipole can get you 1500 points or more,
> try working even 100kM under average tropo conditions with that sort of
> set up. Even with 160W of SSB and a big beam working 500km under average
> tropo conditions can be difficult but still only gets you 500 points.
> I think that there should be a limit to the maximum score for long
> distance QSO's via E's (or F2 if the MUF ever gets high enough again)
> perhaps it's time to go back to radial ring scoring.
> Discuss?
>
> 73...
>
> Ken
>
> G3LVP
>
>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:26:20 +0100
>> From: John Wilson<uk-contest at grebe.plus.com>
>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] 70MHz trophy contest
>>
>>
>> The best way to get this contest into the optimum period for Es without
>> extra congestion in the calendar, would be to adopt my suggestion that I
>> put forward last year and run it concurrently with or as part of the 6m
>> Trophy contest.  If it stays independent then I think I prefer this
>> years date to the August one as the chances of Es are undoubtedly a bit
>> higher.
>>
>> 73 John G3UUT
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