[UK-CONTEST] Ending time

[Steve Knowles]

RSGB contest rules are (and always have been) applied equally to all 
entrants, regardless of their degree of success in their events.  In fact, 
experience has shown that those entering 'as a bit of fun' are usually those 
least likely to bend or breach the rules.

Clocks and watches, radio-synchronised to the international time 
transmissions and accurate to better than a second per day, are now avalable 
to all for only a few pounds.  Computers may easily be linked to the same 
time standards via the internet.  Accurate timekeeping is no longer a 
problem!

The Contests Committee frequently receives complaints about rubber-clocking. 
The Committee recently considered the rules and agreed that their 
interpretation should be that ALL contest activity should cease at or before 
the stated end time of a contest - i.e. contacts which had not been finished 
and logged within the contest period could NOT be completed outside of it 
and would be lost - and this decision has been made public.   The 
acquisition of SDR broadband recording facilities means that the Committee's 
adjudicators are now in a better position to address this problem.  There 
are no plans at present to apply extra penalties, but contacts found to be 
taking place outside of the contest period will be disallowed.

Hope this helps to clarify things.

73

Steve
G3UFY




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Ruttenberg" <g7twcham at googlemail.com>
To: "Uk-contest" <UK-Contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Ending time


> How seriously are the rubber clocking violations enforced now that SDR 
> recordings are used?
>
> Whilst some of the ops may see entering as a bit of fun how strictly are 
> rubber clocking infringements enforced?
>
> What leeway is there given that not everyone has identically synched 
> clocks? Do only the top stations gets scrutinised, since this is where the 
> awards will go to?
>
> Mike
> G7TWC
>
> On 22 Jan 2011, at 21:13, "g3ory at lineone.net" <g3ory at lineone.net> wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>> " it is most unlikely that QSOs going over the end minute can be
>> proved."
>>
>> As they say in panto 'Oh no it isn't'. As Ed mentioned it is now
>> very easy to use an SDR receiver and a computer to record the whole of
>> the contest band for the whole of the contest period (subject only to
>> there being sufficient space on the hard drive).
>>
>>
>>
>> Detecting rubber clocking becomes easy peasy. You just replay the
>> recording and tune in to each signal that continues beyond the end time
>> to see who it was.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73 Bob
>>
>> G3ORY
>>
>>
>>
>>> ----Original Message----
>>
>>> From: dave at davesergeant.com
>>
>>> Date: 22/01/2011 19:40
>>
>>> To: "uK Contest Reflector"<uk-contest at contesting.com>
>>
>>> Subj: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Ending time
>>
>>>
>>
>>> On 22 Jan 2011 at 19:30, G4LMW wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> To re-iterate the clarification given at that time, the RSGB CC
>>
>>>> confirmed that a QSO had to be *completed* (and logged) before the
>> end
>>
>>>> of the contest. So (using your example) the last logged time for a
>> QSO
>>
>>>> would be 21.29
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> And presumably the robot will alert you if any times in your
>> Cabrillo
>>
>>> are outside the contest time - allowing you to edit the file and
>>
>>> resubmit...
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Realistically unless anybody is monitoring you at the time (and
>>
>>> themselves missing the chance of a last minute QSO) it is most
>> unlikely
>>
>>> that QSOs going over the end minute can be proved. I sometimes
>> hesitate
>>
>>> before pressing the closing 'Enter' key and it rolls over as far as
>> the
>>
>>> logger is concerned, but that doesn't mean the QSO (including the
>> final
>>
>>> 'R' from the other station) has itself rolled over. Obviously if
>>
>>> somebody's clock is out by 5 minutes he will soon get the message
>> that
>>
>>> it has finished...
>>
>>>
>>
>>> 73 Dave G3YMC
>>
>>>
>>
>>> http://www.davesergeant.com
>>>
>>
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