[UK-CONTEST] cqwwwpx

[Clive Whelan]

A pretty broad line I'd say. If that's wrong, then the whole cxoncept of 
SO2V is wrong, not to mention SO2R. However when you indulge in such 
practices, and you do not occupy the frequency immediately after a QRL?, 
then you have lost it. That's the penalty and if you accept it, the 
technique is imo a valid use of technology.

What CQ ( et al) need to do is concentrate ( even more) on catching the 
real " cluster deniers" not impeding the valid use of technology, as has 
e.g. been done in the Skimmer episode. We need more young contesters and 
they will ( understandably imo) be deterred by technophobia.

73

Clive
GW3NJW

On 30/05/2011 11:56, Steve GW4BLE wrote:
> Hmm... interesting, there's a very fine line here, obviously one would not condone such practices should they be part of the rules (written or otherwise), but we should not be seen to quell innovation.
>
> "Seemed to be great fun at the time"
>
>
> Steve
> GW4BLE
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 30 May 2011, at 12:22, Bob Henderson<bob at 5b4agn.net>  wrote:
>
>    
>> I have no doubt they would claim both frequencies are in use.  Emotionally,
>> I agree this is not right.   CQ have so far adopted a more literal/technical
>> stance regarding one transmitted signal at any one time.  This is what all
>> the discussion is about.  But ultimately CQ can apply/interpret the rules
>> governing their contests any way they please.
>>
>> Bob, 5B4AGN
>>
>> On 30 May 2011 11:10, Kerr, Prof. K.M.<k.kerr at abdn.ac.uk>  wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> ......but I'll bet you they would 'claim' both frequencies if you sent a
>>> QRL on either. Thus both frequencies were concurrently in use by them on the
>>> same band.
>>> It is stating the obvious but this cannot be right, regardless of category.
>>>
>>> Keith GM4YXI / GM5X
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob Henderson
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>>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] cqwwwpx
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>>> On 30 May 2011 09:21, Gerry Lynch<me at gerrylynch.co.uk>  wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> On 28/05/2011 02:52, Charlie Morrison wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>> I notice C4N operating run stations on both 14.001 and 14.053. is
>>>>> this within the rules??
>>>>>            
>>>> No, it isn't, unless they claim they were duelling CQs from the same
>>>> station on the same band.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Gerry
>>>
>>> CQ don't seem fussed about the physical number of transmitters used in any
>>> category, their focus appears to be upon the number of signals radiated at
>>> one time.  I too have listened to C4N and have failed to find a single
>>> incidence of more than one signal on a band at one time.
>>>
>>> I have no connection with the C4N group and have no knowledge of the
>>> category they entered.  However, so far as I can see, their interleaved run
>>> stations on a single band appear consistent with recent rule
>>> interpretations/enforcements by CQ.
>>>
>>> I understand discussions continue over whether this interpretation is the
>>> appropriate one.  We'll have to see how things play out and whether rule
>>> clarifications result but if/until then, this is the face of contesting at
>>> the top of the tree.
>>>
>>> Bob, 5B4AGN
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