[UK-CONTEST] Field Day - was N1MM and IPv6

[Robert Chipperfield]

Hi both,

Without a discussion of what the rules *should* be (the litmus test 
forum seems a better place for that, at the moment), here's the relevant 
current rules, as far as I can tell:

- "Equipment and antennas for packet radio access above 30MHz may also 
be used if desired." - no mention that they must be in amateur bands, 
and no prohibition of cellular data use (which is packet-based, radio 
based, and above 30MHz).

- General rule 5.c specifies only that mains *power *must not be used - 
it makes no reference to other utilities.

Given the combination of these two, there simply doesn't seem to exist 
any rule which prohibits the use of 3G dongles, Wi-Fi links (whether in 
the amateur bands or otherwise), or anything else for cluster access.

Paul - you may think there should be, and maybe in the future there will 
be, but this year, I'm pretty sure there isn't.

73,
Rob, M0VFC

On 21/08/2012 20:50, UKCONTEST wrote:
> Paul
>
> I was merely assisting our friend 'SJJ with is IT Networking issues,
> highlighting that it was not necessary to use a Router or a Hub in order
> to network two laptops together.
>
> My understanding of the implication of the "Packet Connection" **rule**
> within the SSB FD rule set is that of yours. The station is isolated
> from all "normal utilities" and therefore "normal" Internet type access
> to the packet network.
>
> However the **rule** is :
>
>    In all sections, equipment and antennas for packet radio access above
> 30MHz may also be used if desired.
>
> Now I suppose in the 1980's this would have meant just that. Packet
> access via amateur gear, amateur networks. But now, after reading 'SJJ's
> original email, I am not so sure. Mainly because technology has moved
> on. Maybe, Packet Network via a WiFi connection during SSB Field Day is
> within the rules,,,,after all you could argue that WiFi is indeed on an
> amateur band (the top end of the 23cm band covers the bottom 6 Channels
> of the WifI band, I recall).
>
> Perhaps this is one for clarification in the new rules issued by the
> RSGB HF CC when they are published.
>
> In the mean time,until directed otherwise, I'll carry on connecting to
> the Packet cluster via a 144MHz connection, and use my two networked
> laptops (private non internet network, that is) for logging and contest
> monitoring.
>
> Perhaps other SSB FD 'aholics would comment?
>
> 73
>
> Adrian MW1LCR / GW9X
>
>
>
>
> On 21/08/2012 20:25, Paul O'Kane wrote:
>> On 21/08/2012 19:28, Adrian MW1LCR / GW9X wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Its typical of ADSL Router manufacturers to use a Class C, non routed IP
>>> address range to provide IP addresses to the internal network. Typically
>>> in the 192.168.x.x range, although there are others. Simply put traffic
>>> originating on the internet with these IP addresses are not routed. Your
>>> Router / Firewall usually changes the internal IP addresses to routable
>>> addresses, and then forwards on. This is NAT or Network Address
>>> translation.
>> <snip>
>>
>>> PS I thought cluster connections for SSB FD had to be made via an
>>> amateur bands connection, say 144 or 432 etc? Have I got that wrong?
>>
>> I thought Field Day was supposed to emphasise our
>> independence from power utilities, and that its
>> independence from communications utilities was
>> taken for granted.
>>
>> It seems to me this networking and internet
>> carry-on is particularly inappropriate in the
>> context of Field Day.  Why not use Skype and
>> be done with it?
>>
>> Please consider that Multi-Op does not have to
>> be synonymous with external networking and the
>> internet.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>> Paul EI5DI
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