[UK-CONTEST] UK-Contest Digest, Vol 116, Issue 39

[M0RXX]

Hi
I am an RSGB member and a member of NADARS in the club we encourage all our members to help in any way they can. I am disabled (slightly) but help erect and dismantle the station along with other non operators my CW is too bad to Tx. Why would RSGB members want NFD to be a closed shop to helpers unless they are martyrs! 

Stuart Southern. 

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On 30 Aug 2012, at 21:15, "Steve White" <g3zvw at talktalk.net> wrote:

> Clive says that about 200 stations are active on CW in 80m Club Championships. From February to May 2012 that's absolutely correct, but in June (the same month as CW NFD) is was 170. Now consider how many of those are serious CW operators, capable of hacking it in a major contest. Maybe about half of them? Let's say 100.
> 
> Now look at the results table of CW NFD 2012 and add up all the operators in all the teams. Including checklogs it comes to 153.
> 
> Examining the callsigns of those listed as operators in CW NFD 2012 reveals only 3 Foundation licensees and no Intermediate licensees. I'm not saying that I agree with Foundation/Intermediate/newbies steering well clear of events such as CW NFD (presumably for fear of looking totally stupid in the presence of the CW Gods - and being shouted at when they make the slightest mistake), but I think 153 ops in CW NFD is none too shabby - especially when there must also have been some non-operating newbies/novices/non-RSGB members on some of the sites, erecting antennas, brewing-up, learning the ropes etc.
> 
> I wonder how many of the groups had additional non-operating help, or is a 'closed shop' in operation at some stations? If so it wouldn't be the first time I'd heard of it.
> 
> 73
> 
> Steve, G3ZVW
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> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] WAS HF NFD RESULTS PUBLISHED
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> David
> Comparisons with ARRL field are not legitimate. The ARRL is and has
> always been not a contest in the normal sense. Which of course is the reason
> it has many bands, and is treated like a BBQ rather than an HF Contest. Not
> so
> the case in Europe. You only had to listen this last NFD to see that EU
> activity was very high, admittedly not so from the UK for a number of
> already stated reasons. NFD only needs more active contesters to join in,
> NOT to be changed from the now EU standard.
> The types of questions that need to be asked are, if 200-300
> stations can be QRV in AFS or the CC contests why can't they get their act
> together for NFD.  Is it the same old case of the Brits just can't be
> bothered, which of course is more than likely.
> Is it the case that the standard format for  RSGB contests produces
> home grown contest entrants that can't hack it when  they join the big boys
> for real contests. ? Again more than likely.
> My last remark is centred on the fact than no callsign errors in RSGB
> contests have any penalty for the error, therefore when a UK contester
> entrant joins the real world, they are not up to it, in the main.
> Where are the RSGB CC online Videos of how to operate and be
> competitive. etc. These are the types of questions that should be
> asked and answered before messing around further with rules that have served
> well within EU for years.
> 73 Clive GM3POI
> 
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