[UK-CONTEST] Important message from the UK Contest Reflector Administrator

Sun Nov 4 18:11:29 EST 2012

We will in the future get lots of double messages.....as posters will think it is of VHF and HF interest so they will post to the 2 reflectors... its hardly progress chaps.

Or a real poll, when we all know when it closes giving those who are away all week anopportunity etc etc....

Bob 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK-Contest [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf
> Of Roger Western
> Sent: 04 November 2012 23:06
> To: Contest Reflector UK
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Important message from the UK Contest
> Reflector Administrator
> 
> John,
> That is rather unkind, old chap, or even mildly insulting! The 'poll' asked two
> simple questions, requiring no interpretation whatsoever. So, my own stance
> on the issue was irrelevant: I merely counted and reported the 'votes'.
> Without comment. The fact that the result was not to your liking should not
> lead you to shoot the messenger. It may interest you to know that over
> several decades I was a Business Analyst - I know where to draw the lines in
> order to preclude bias.
> 
> This is a situation where no solution would please all of the people all of the
> time: a Marmite case but with a majority whose opinion then prevailed. I
> assure you that I had absolutely no input about this 'poll' from the reflector
> moderators - before, during or after: it was merely my own initiative, trying
> to be helpful.
> 
> Anyway, it's hardly the end of the world: subscribing to both reflectors is not
> onerous! Let's all now get back to meaningful contesting issues.
> 
> All the best - 73 de Roger/G3SXW.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John G3UUT
> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 1:38 PM
> To: uk-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Important message from the UK Contest
> Reflector Administrator
> 
> That's unfortunate, I'm happy about the move to Yahoo but unhappy about
> splitting the groups, I think the moderators have given in to the voluble
> minority on both sides leaving us, the silent majority, to have to cope with
> two groups.  I was particularly unhappy about the recent poll on this and I
> now, regret not having made my feelings clear earlier.  This poll was
> conducted by a someone with opinions very much on one side and it appears
> the moderators have gone along with it.  I suspect those of us interested in
> both HF and VHF will now have to put up with at least 50% more emails,
> putting HF or VHF at the start of the subject would have been a much better
> solution
> 
> John G3UUT
> 
> On 03/11/2012 21:09, Mark David wrote:
> > *
> >
> > Message From UK Contest list administration
> >
> >
> > Important notice to subscribers of UK Contest.
> >
> >
> > As administrator for the UK Contest reflector the recent debate on UK
> > Contest reflector has brought to the attention of the reflector
> > subscribers a discussion that has been held off list for over a year
> > now. The key point has been whether to offer opportunities for the HF
> > and V/UHF communities to collaborate on their relevant topics of
> > interest in their own forum.
> >
> >
> > An additional factor to consider is the current software used for the UK
> > Contest reflector which is based on rather dated 'Mailman' platform The
> > current reflector has served the UK contest community well. In recent
> > years, other social platforms with improved functionality and 'user
> > friendliness' have come to the fore, most noteworthy being 'Yahoo
> Groups',
> > as
> > used by many UK and world-wide amateur radio special interest groups.
> >
> >
> > With these two points in mind this notice advises all subscribers to UK
> > Contest of the intent to:
> >
> >
> > 1. Migrate UK Contest to two new groups on Yahoo each focused on HF
> and
> > VHF
> > respectively.
> >
> >
> > 2. By the end of November 2012 to close down the existing UK Contest
> > reflector
> >
> >
> > The user may choose to subscribe to either or both Yahoo groups.
> >
> >
> > Migration Plan
> >
> >
> > 1st November 2012 - New Yahoo Groups sites open for subscription. Users
> > will be responsible for actioning their subscription to the Yahoo Group -
> > there will be no invitation process. New subscribers to the existing UK
> > Contest reflector will be rejected and informed of the new groups.
> >
> >
> > During November 2012 - All postings to UK Contest will be tagged with a
> > reminder message, frequent reminder messages will be posted to UK
> Contest.
> >
> >
> > 30th November 2012 - All posts to UK Contest will be rejected, site
> > archive
> > will remain accessible.
> >
> >
> > How to join the new groups
> >
> >
> > Two new groups have been created on Yahoo Groups, one for HF
> Contesting
> > and
> > one for V/UHF (incl. 50MHz) Contesting; all UK Contest members are
> welcome
> > to join either or both of these new groups to continue discussions.
> >
> >
> > To join the HF Contest reflector follow this link:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uk-hf-contesting
> >
> > To join the V/UHF Contest reflector follow this link:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uk-vhf-contesting
> >
> >
> > For those unfamiliar with Yahoo Groups, it's easy to navigate and offers
> > extra functionality such as searching, opinion polls, a calendar, photo
> > gallery and files section that will potentially add to the reflector
> > experience. You may be required to configure an account with Yahoo.
> >
> > If you need help registering on the new reflectors, please contact one of
> > the administrators of these  new groups by emailing:
> >
> >
> > uk-hf-contesting-owner at yahoogroups.co.uk
> >
> > or
> >
> > uk-vhf-contesting-owner at yahoogroups.co.uk
> >
> > <uk-vhf-contesting-owner at yahoogroups.co.uk>
> >
> > John G4IRN, Chris GM3WOJ and Mark G4MEM are jointly administering
> these
> > new
> > groups. As a reminder these reflectors are open to all interested partie
> > and operates independently of the Radio Society of Great Britain.
> >
> > Thank you for your participation on UK Contest Reflector over the years,
> > we
> > look forward to seeing you all on the new reflectors.
> >
> >
> > Mark, G4MEM.
> > UK Contest Reflector Administrator
> > 3rd November 2012*
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