[UK-CONTEST] Where are the UBNs published

[Clive GM3POI]

Clive I don't remember you being QRV in these 80m events but I would say the
whole series has now moved on beyond the initial efforts of new entrants.
For example the average cw speed has gone up over the last two years.
	When 80m CC entrants join major contests they will have to contend
with getting things right, and the CC objectives should be to achieve a
higher standard of operating by UK entrants. 
73 Clive GM3POI 

-----Original Message-----
From: UK-Contest [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Clive Whelan
Sent: 19 September 2012 11:23
Cc: 'UK Contest'
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Where are the UBNs published

Why on earth, would you want a UBN of a newbie operator to be published 
( and after all aren't the RSGB CCs explicitly for them really )?

As an OF operator , if I make mistakes I can live with that, and frankly 
don't care what anyone else thinks about me. ( one of the few upsides of 
getting old ! )

But, if I were a contest newcomer ,especially in CW mode, I'd be very 
disheartened and dispirited to to see my faux pas published.

CQWW is a big boys' event, so if you don't like the heat, stay out of 
the kitchen, but RSGB training events such as these are totally different.

Openness and transparency should be assessed in context imo. One size 
never fitted all.

73


Clive

On 19/09/2012 06:47, Clive GM3POI wrote:
> The EU sprint which RSGB copies in format on 80m publishes the log and
> errors, In these days of openness it should be the CCs aim to provide all
> information  once it has been submitted and checked.
> 73 Clive GM3POI
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK-Contest [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Dave Sergeant
> Sent: 19 September 2012 05:56
> To: UK Contest
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Where are the UBNs published
>
> PLEASE NO, do not follow CQ with this practice. Publishing full logs
> makes forged QSLs for DXCC and other awards a free for all. That is why
> most dxpedition online logs only show you the band you have made a QSO
> on, not the full QSO details - and in Log Book of the World where you
> only receive a confirmation if both sides of the QSO match.
>
> Regarding UBNs, I would like to receive a UBN in all cases, regardless
> of whether I have made any errors in that contest. Do not limit it to
> entrants who have made one or more errors, if I have an error free log
> (which it seems I sometimes do) then I would like to be told so.
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> On 18 Sep 2012 at 22:34, Steve GW4BLE wrote:
>
>    
>> Open logs and UBN's please for all contests please!
>>
>>
>>      
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