[VHFcontesting] Re: captive rovers

[John Geiger]

To top it off, there are some other VHF
operators/contests who I find personally annoying. 
Should I be forced to QSO them?  Sometimes I do, and
sometimes I don't but if I go roving, don't make a
rule that says that I have to QSO everyone I hear,
even if I don't particularity like them.  Or what if
they are using poor operating practices?  Or have a
poor quality signal?  Should I reward them by giving
them a QSO from a rare grid square?  The DXpedition
black list is one way to force people to reevaluate
the operating practices they use.  We should bring it
back more often.

73s John NE0P


--- Dennis Hudson <n2lbt at n2lbt.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, Jul 29, 2003, at 09:55 US/Eastern,
> dpease at adams.net wrote:
> 
> > My limited experience here in the "Black Hole"
> (even worse in VHF 
> > test) with rovers is limited, but all I have heard
> on are not 
> > "captive" and many times provide the only contact
> in several grids on 
> > many bands.  I am thankful to have them out there.
> >
> > Danny  NG9R
> >
> 
> Amen
> 
> 
> Tree, Jim, Warren etc, what do you guys have against
> roving? Why are 
> you constantly trying to destroy one of the most
> enjoyable aspects of 
> my HOBBY. What you may not realize is all this rover
> bashing has the 
> potential to kill VHF contesting for many of us. We
> have already been 
> assaulted by the new rover rules, for which I
> replied, "fine I won't 
> turn in logs anymore then". Now you want to tell me
> who I can and can't 
> work during a contest? Who the hell do you people
> think you are? Mind 
> you own darn business and work on your own stations.
> If there are any 
> more rover rule changes, we the rovers should be
> suggesting them. Not a 
> bunch of bellyaching good-ole-boys who are too lazy
> to support the 
> growth of this hobby.
> 
> Try taking a positive attitude at this contesting
> thing instead of this 
> constant bitching. Look at what some of the large
> VHF groups have done 
> for the hobby. W2SZ, K8GP, N2WK, W3CCX, K3YTL etc.
> Populated relatively 
> unused bands, taught microwave station construction,
> repair and 
> operating practices to new hams, old hams and even
> potential hams. I 
> now own and operate a very capable VHF-SHF station
> that I have amassed 
> over the years, but it all started out by learning
> from a local VHF 
> group, that has continued to guide me and offer help
> when needed. This 
> type of activity is savior of VHF contesting, not
> the dinosaur 
> attitudes that spews out of this reflector.
> 
> I try to contact anyone willing to put an effort to
> make a station 
> capable of working me. I've personally handed out
> some of the final 
> microwave VUCC cards to stations like KH6CP(W1VT),
> VE2JWH, WA1AIM. I 
> try to publish my schedule on this reflector and my
> capabilities are 
> listed with VE2PIJ's VHF resource page.
> 
> If one were to examine some of my logs you might
> find only a handful of 
> different stations in my log, and quite possibly a
> large percentage of 
> exotics would come from one station.  Usually it's
> because no one is 
> pointed where I am, or no one else has a station
> capable of working me. 
> So, should I stop activating rare grids because you
> don't like it? It's 
> bad enough the new rover rules favor a fast rover
> that uses fixed 
> mobile antennas driving through populated areas.
> Maybe there should be 
> a rule that every single or multi op within 200
> miles must work me on 
> all the bands I have. Maybe we should subtract
> points from your score 
> for every rover you don't work. How's that sound?
> These suggested rule 
> changes are getting ridiculous and I don't believe
> reflect the feelings 
> of the actual people who are operating or even the
> spirit of VHF 
> contesting. Where is ND3F, W3IY, N2JHM, N2MH on this
> issue? In my 
> opinion these are the people you should be asking,
> not telling.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dennis Hudson, N2LBT
> N2OJY-N2LBT/VE2/R
> FN32,FN33,FN34,FN35,FN36,FN45,FN46,FN47
> http://www.n2lbt.com/
> 
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