[VHFcontesting] Rule Change Discussion

[John Geiger (NE0P)]

But there would still be times when it would be pointless to work a rover.  If I work WF5VHF/R on 2 meters in EM05, and then he goes to EM15, there would be no reason to work him if I had already worked EM15 on 2 meters.  I believe this would still discourage rover activity.  

I am not sure that the VHF contests are broken, so maybe we don't need to fix them.

73s John NE0P
   


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "John (JK) Kalenowsky, K9JK" <k9jk73 at msn.com>
Date:  Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:52:02 -0500

>I agree with John and Tom...as someone who IS fairly active as a rover, I would stop roving if ALL QSO points with other rovers were 'set' to be zero.
>
>HOWEVER, if the *first* contact I made on each band with another rover in a given grid (*regardless* of >my< grid) got QSO Point credit, but further QSOs (as I changed >my< grid) with that same rover in that same given grid got zero points (kind of like we only get credit for the *first* time we work a multiplier/grid square for each given band), I'd be OK with that. Of course, that creates an entirely NEW Grid Circling strategy which can still be done for an increase in score (though not as great an increase), but it also encourages more time and effort to try and work stations OTHER than a circling partner or members of your 'pack'. Admittedly, there would be some situations where the OTHER rover would want contacts but I would have no incentive to work them and vice versa, but I'd hope that I and the other rover( s) would find a way to work that out.
>
>73, JK
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Tom Carney<mailto:tomc7 at earthlink.net> 
>  To: vhfcontesting at contesting.com<mailto:vhfcontesting at contesting.com> 
>  Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 11:20
>  Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Rule Change Discussion
>
>
>  Ditto NE0P's comments.
>
>  Most rovers out here are relatively low power, small antenna stations.
>  Other than the first 30 minutes of a contest, I virtually never work a rover
>  that is in a grid square I need (except for a six meter opening).  I would
>  have no incentive to work other rover.
>
>  73,  Tom K6EU/r
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "John Geiger (NE0P)" <ne0p at lcisp.com<mailto:ne0p at lcisp.com>>
>  To: "'Bob Naumann - W5OV'" <W5OV at W5OV.com<mailto:W5OV at W5OV.com>>; <vhfcontesting at contesting.com<mailto:vhfcontesting at contesting.com>>;
>  <mclarson at rcc.com<mailto:mclarson at rcc.com>>
>  Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 8:47 AM
>  Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Rule Change Discussion
>
>
>  > IT would also discourage most people from going out roving.
>  >
>  > 73s John NE0P
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>  > From: "Michael J. Clarson" <mclarson at rcc.com<mailto:mclarson at rcc.com>>
>  > Reply-To: mclarson at rcc.com<mailto:mclarson at rcc.com>
>  > Date:  Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:40:09 -0400
>  >
>  > > Bob: A suggested scoring change (made several weeks ago and did not
>  > >generate much in the way of comments, pro or con, which makes me think
>  the
>  > >real activity for most is complaining, and not the betterment of the
>  > >contests) would be to have rover to rover QSO's count ZERO points. You'd
>  get
>  > >multipliers, but no points. That would sure reduce the circling scores
>  and
>  > >encourage the working of stations outside the group. --Mike, WV2ZOW
>  > >
>
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