[VHFcontesting] VHF contesting ethics questions

[Paul Kiesel]

I, too, like to use FSK441 and JT65. My question had
to do with using the N0UK pages to find out who was
operating where (and to determine what operating
sequence they were using). For single op unassisted,
this practice would seem to not follow the rules.

As far as random operating on FSK441 goes, I think
it's a great opportunity to make QSOs that you might
not have made otherwise - and I plan to start doing
that myself when things are slow.

But random JT65 EME QSOs are another matter. Searching
the bands, one would be hard pressed to find an
ongoing EME QSO unless one of the participants lived
within terrestrial propagation range.

73,
Paul, K7CW




--- Paul Drexler W2PED <pdrexler at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Duane,
> 
> Just as an "FYI" there is a SURPRISING amount of
> random activity on the WSJT calling frequencies,
> particularly during contests.  During the past
> several January contests at N3NGE's we've worked 
> nearly a dozen completely random qso's on 50.260 via
> WSJT.... no scheduling required!
> 
> Give the mode a try... I think you'll like it!
> 
> 73, Paul w2ped
> 
> 
> > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:17:08 -0700
> > From: n9dg at yahoo.com
> > To: k7cw at yahoo.com; vhfcontesting at contesting.com;
> chetsubaccount at snet.net
> > Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] VHF contesting ethics
> questions
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 6/18/08, Chet, N8RA
> <chetsubaccount at snet.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Chet, N8RA <chetsubaccount at snet.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] VHF contesting
> ethics questions
> > > To: "'Paul Kiesel'" <k7cw at yahoo.com>, "'VHF
> Contest Reflector'" <vhfcontesting at contesting.com>
> > > Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 12:16 PM
> > > Hi Paul,
> > > A ping jockey listing by station saying he is
> now on freq X
> > > using modulation
> > > Y now calling CQ is really a self-spot by that
> station.
> > > That itself is
> > > something not allowed for him by another rule I
> think, and
> > > it is not
> > > permitted for a person entering as a single op
> to connect
> > > to that
> > > assistance. This PJ spot is not really different
> than a
> > > packet spot, isn't
> > > it?
> > 
> > I really do think that WSJT is a genuinely cool
> mode. However what has really kept me from really
> wanting to pursue it is the standard operating
> practice of real-time or near real-time Internet
> coordination of a majority of the QSO's done with
> it. In fact in general I'm just not a big fan of
> scheduling contacts at all. Which is also why EME
> (WSJT or otherwise) hasn't really tripped my trigger
> much either, there's just too much "scheduling" of
> Q's for it to intrigue me much.
> > 
> > Now if WSJT was implemented in a CWSkimmer like
> configuration where it was watching a wide swath of
> spectrum for totally random (i.e. unscheduled)
> signals then I'd be all over it. I want it to be me
> and/or my equipment to find the signals through my
> own antennas on the band of interest. It's just not
> as sporting to me to look for someone because they
> told me that they were there. Too much like
> commercial game farm "hunting", ... and with some
> animals even tied up... Now some will argue that
> "running the bands" is tantamount to scheduled
> contacts as well, perhaps it is to a degree, but
> finding that other station to work at all in the
> first place (without using outside means or
> schedules) I think is the critical differentiator.
> > 
> > Duane
> > N9DG
> > 
> > 
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