[VHFcontesting] VHF contesting ethics questions

[Zack Widup]

I myself would not look at any site or source that showed callsigns or 
frequencies.  However, I don't see anything wrong with the six things Chet 
listed below. They are only giving you information on existing conditions. 
They do not directly assist you to make a QSO in any way.

Maybe I shouldn't take a weather radio with me on my portable operations 
for warning of impending severe storms?

73, Zack W9SZ


On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Paul Kiesel wrote:

> I messed up my reply to this, so here it is:
>
> In the interst of being specific about the topic of
> using the internet, I ask:
>
> May a single op station participating in the June VHF
> QSO Party use the N0UK Ping Jockey and EME pages to
> look for callsigns/frequencies of potential QSOs? I
> think not, but there are others who disagree.
>
> Paul, K7CW
>
> --- Paul Kiesel <k7cw at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> --- "Chet, N8RA" <chetsubaccount at snet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> My current belief is that propagation data sites
>>> like
>>>
>>> -the aurora oval picture
>>> -Hepburn map predictions
>>> -WWV SFI A and K info
>>> -muf plots
>>> -E's cloud maps
>>> -NWS radar images
>>>
>>> that have no specific real time station callsigns
>>> displayed with them, are
>>> OK to use, and are within the letter, spirit and
>>> intent of the rules. These
>>> don't solicit, suggest, or pre-fill info on
>> working
>>> a specific station right
>>> now. If my belief is not correct, I'm certainly
>> open
>>> to hear about it.
>>>
>>> The site you mention does show callsigns if you
>>> mouseover the color bands.
>>> (But I really don't know if those are unworkable
>>> stations like beacons or
>>> repeaters or include indicators from stations now
>>> active in that location.)
>>>
>>> Discussion of specific examples of ok's and
>> no-no's
>>> really helps make it
>>> clearer to me, much more so than trying to parse
>> the
>>> meanings of words in
>>> multiple sets of rules as an attorney might-hi.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Chet, N8RA
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: vhfcontesting-bounces at contesting.com
>>> [mailto:vhfcontesting-bounces at contesting.com] On
>>> Behalf Of kb8u vhf
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:04 AM
>>> To: vhfcontesting at contesting.com
>>> Subject: [VHFcontesting] VHF contesting ethics
>>> questions
>>>
>>>
>>> Do people think it is ethical to use the internet
>> to
>>> get National Weather
>>> Service radar images to assist in knowing where to
>>> point a 10 GHz dish for
>>> rain-scatter propagation during contests when all
>>> other aspects of the
>>> contact are facilitated over the air?  Exclude the
>>> 10 GHz and up contest
>>> since the rules for that one say anything goes.
>>>
>>> How about use of the real-time propagtion map at
>>>
>>
> http://www.mountainlake.k12.mn.us/ham/aprs/path.cgi?map=na
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Neither give the callsign or frequency of anybody
>>> you could work so I'm OK
>>> with them but I'll stop if I'm in the minority.
>>>
>>> -Russ  KB8U
>>>
>>>
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