[WriteLog] Recording question

Nick Lekic va3na@rac.ca
Mon, 22 Oct 2001 07:31:36 -0400


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Hi Gil:

I guess the main advantage of Writelog (in comparison to tape 
recordings) is that you can either select the qso from the log you wish 
to hear audio from or use the Audio Review software and choose any point 
in time from the log to play audio.    No need to skim through bunch of 
tapes.  

73
Nick

Gil Baron wrote:

> Who is ever gong to listen to 24 hours of recorded contest again 
> anyway. I sure don't see any reason to record a contest. You will 
> never find what you are looking for anyhow as there is no such thing 
> as audio search.
>
> I guess I just don't get it?
>
>
> At 23:06 10/21/2001, Georgens, Tom wrote:
>
>> Nick -
>>  
>> You are right on the mark!
>>  
>> I downloaded WMP 7.1 and the the coding algorithms appeared.  By my 
>> calculations, an 800 MB CD will tolerate about 4.6KB/second.  
>> Allowing for an extra hour and 740 MB CD's, anything that records at 
>> or below 4KB/s should be fine.
>>  
>> Not having a station at home, I am playing on of my daughter's CD's 
>> on my wife's PC to generate something to record.  The highest 
>> performance Mono setting sounds pretty good and generates 3.9KB/sec.  
>> I presume that radio audio will be OK with even slower sampling.
>>  
>> If only Writelog (more specifically my soundboard) could mix the mic 
>> and line in, it would be really cool
>>  
>> Thanks for your help
>>  
>> 73 Tom W2SC
>>  
>>
>>     -----Original Message----- From: Nick Lekic [ mailto:va3na@rac.ca
>>     ] Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 7:12 PM To: Georgens, Tom
>>     Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Recording question
>>
>>     Hi Tom:
>>
>>     You may have to install Windows Media Player 7.1 to get the MPEG
>>     3 Compression format available to choose from Writelog. Here, I
>>     am using 32 kBit/s  11,025  3 Kb/s MPEG-3 format option.   File
>>     for one hour of recorded audio is 14 Mb in size.   For the entire
>>     contest it comes up to 672 Mb.   It should fit on 80 minute CD. 
>>
>>     73 and gl in test
>>
>>     Nick, va3na
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     Georgens, Tom wrote:I am planning to record the WW SSB contest
>>     using Writelog and I have been searching the archives for
>>     tips.Some people (W2UP, K3WW) have mentioned using MPEG level 3
>>     which could record the entire contest in under 400MB.  This has
>>     the added benefit of fitting on a CD for more permanent archive. 
>>     However, I do not have an MPEG choice under Writelog for
>>     compression options.  Is this a function of Writelog or the sound
>>     card I am using?Assuming that I cannot use MPEG, what other
>>     settings have other people used successfully that could fit in
>>     800MB.  This is about 4KB/secI have tried a few and one of the
>>     Microsoft ADPCM options sounded best for 4KB/Sec.  I suppose
>>     another option is to record it with high quality and try to
>>     compress it afterwards with software but I suspect that will be a
>> long job.Thanks for your help,Tom W2SC (8P5A or 8P1A next weekend)
>>
> Gil Baron http://members.home.com/gbaron
> W0MN 44.08208 N 92.51263 W 1055'
> "Baila como nadie te ve"



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Hi Gil:<br>
<br>
I guess the main advantage of Writelog (in comparison to tape recordings)
is that you can either select the qso from the log you wish to hear audio
from or use the Audio Review software and choose any point in time from the
log to play audio. &nbsp; &nbsp;No need to skim through bunch of tapes. &nbsp; <br>
<br>
73<br>
Nick <br>
<br>
Gil Baron wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:5.1.0.14.0.20011022061010.0317d9b8@pop3.norton.antivirus">
 Who is ever gong to listen to 24 hours of recorded contest again anyway. 
I sure don't see any reason to record a contest. You will never find what 
you are looking for anyhow as there is no such thing as audio search.<br>
  <br>
 I guess I just don't get it?<br>
  <br>
  <br>
 At 23:06 10/21/2001, Georgens, Tom wrote:<br>
  <blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite=""><font face="arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">
Nick -</font><br>
 &nbsp;<br>
    <font face="arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">You are right on the mark!</font><br>
 &nbsp;<br>
    <font face="arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">I downloaded WMP 7.1 and
the the coding algorithms appeared.&nbsp; By my calculations, an 800 MB CD will
tolerate about 4.6KB/second.&nbsp; Allowing for an extra hour and 740 MB CD's,
anything that records at or below 4KB/s should be fine.</font><br>
 &nbsp;<br>
    <font face="arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">Not having a station at home,
I am playing on of my daughter's CD's on my wife's PC to generate something 
to record.&nbsp; The highest performance Mono setting sounds pretty good and generates
3.9KB/sec.&nbsp; I presume that radio audio will be OK with even slower sampling.</font><br>
 &nbsp;<br>
    <font face="arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">If only Writelog (more specifically
my soundboard) could mix the mic and line in, it would be really cool</font><br>
 &nbsp;<br>
    <font face="arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">Thanks for your help</font><br>
 &nbsp;<br>
    <font face="arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">73 Tom W2SC</font><br>
 &nbsp; 
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    <dd><font face="Times New Roman, Times" size="2">-----Original Message----- 
      </font></dd>
      <dd><font face="Times New Roman, Times" size="2">From: Nick Lekic [<a href="mailto:va3na@rac.ca" eudora="autourl">
mailto:va3na@rac.ca</a>
] </font></dd>
        <dd><font face="Times New Roman, Times" size="2">Sent: Sunday, October
21, 2001 7:12 PM </font></dd>
          <dd><font face="Times New Roman, Times" size="2">To: Georgens,
Tom </font></dd>
            <dd><font face="Times New Roman, Times" size="2">Subject: Re:
[WriteLog] Recording question<br>
              <br>
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              <dd>Hi Tom:<br>
                <br>
                </dd>
                <dd>You may have to install Windows Media Player 7.1 to get
the MPEG 3 Compression format available to choose from Writelog.  </dd>
                  <dd>Here, I am using 32 kBit/s&nbsp; 11,025&nbsp; 3 Kb/s MPEG-3 format 
option.&nbsp;&nbsp; File for one hour of recorded audio is 14 Mb in size.&nbsp;&nbsp; For the
entire contest it comes up to 672 Mb.&nbsp;&nbsp; It should fit on 80 minute CD.&nbsp; <br>
                    <br>
                    </dd>
                    <dd>73 and gl in test<br>
                      <br>
                      </dd>
                      <dd>Nick, va3na <br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        </dd>
                        <dd>Georgens, Tom wrote:</dd>
                          <dd><font face="arial" size="2">I am planning to
record the WW SSB contest using Writelog and I have been searching the archives
for tips.</font></dd>
                            <dd><font face="arial" size="2">Some people (W2UP,
K3WW) have mentioned using MPEG level 3 which could record the entire contest
in under 400MB.&nbsp; This has the added benefit of fitting on a CD for more permanent
archive.&nbsp; However, I do not have an MPEG choice under Writelog for compression
options.&nbsp; Is this a function of Writelog or the sound card I am using?</font></dd>
                              <dd><font face="arial" size="2">Assuming that
I cannot use MPEG, what other settings have other people used successfully
that could fit in 800MB.&nbsp; This is about 4KB/sec</font></dd>
                                <dd><font face="arial" size="2">I have tried
a few and one of the Microsoft ADPCM options sounded best for 4KB/Sec.&nbsp; I
suppose another option is to record it with high quality and try to compress
it afterwards with software but I suspect that will be a long job.</font></dd>
                                  <dd><font face="arial" size="2">Thanks
for your help,</font></dd>
                                    <dd><font face="arial" size="2">Tom W2SC
(8P5A or 8P1A next weekend)</font></dd>
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Gil Baron <a href="http://members.home.com/gbaron" eudora="autourl">http://members.home.com/gbaron</a>
                                      <br>
 W0MN 44.08208 N 92.51263 W 1055'<br>
 "Baila como nadie te ve" <br>
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