[WriteLog] Recording question
Ric Plummer
Ric Plummer" <ricp@alum.wpi.edu
Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:20:02 -0000
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Well,
We do routinely reocrd the entire contest for all three stations here at =
KV1W M/M.
The point is not to listen to it, although it does provide interesting =
background for the prep and cheerleading sessions to get psyched.
The point is that WL provides the proper indexing to listen to =
individual contacts either during the contest of later. We find it =
really interesting for review of the UBN data. Most of the times it is =
interesting to see how mistakes were made.
Good luck to all in WW
Ric KV1W
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gil Baron=20
To: Georgens, Tom ; 'Nick Lekic'=20
Cc: 'writelog@contesting.com'=20
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 11:11
Subject: RE: [WriteLog] Recording question
Who is ever gong to listen to 24 hours of recorded contest again =
anyway. I sure don't see any reason to record a contest. You will never =
find what you are looking for anyhow as there is no such thing as audio =
search.
I guess I just don't get it?
At 23:06 10/21/2001, Georgens, Tom wrote:
Nick -
=20
You are right on the mark!
=20
I downloaded WMP 7.1 and the the coding algorithms appeared. By my =
calculations, an 800 MB CD will tolerate about 4.6KB/second. Allowing =
for an extra hour and 740 MB CD's, anything that records at or below =
4KB/s should be fine.
=20
Not having a station at home, I am playing on of my daughter's CD's =
on my wife's PC to generate something to record. The highest =
performance Mono setting sounds pretty good and generates 3.9KB/sec. I =
presume that radio audio will be OK with even slower sampling.
=20
If only Writelog (more specifically my soundboard) could mix the mic =
and line in, it would be really cool
=20
Thanks for your help
=20
73 Tom W2SC
=20
-----Original Message-----=20
From: Nick Lekic [mailto:va3na@rac.ca]=20
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 7:12 PM=20
To: Georgens, Tom=20
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Recording question
Hi Tom:
You may have to install Windows Media Player 7.1 to get the MPEG 3 =
Compression format available to choose from Writelog.=20
Here, I am using 32 kBit/s 11,025 3 Kb/s MPEG-3 format option. =
File for one hour of recorded audio is 14 Mb in size. For the entire =
contest it comes up to 672 Mb. It should fit on 80 minute CD. =20
73 and gl in test
Nick, va3na=20
Georgens, Tom wrote:
I am planning to record the WW SSB contest using Writelog and I =
have been searching the archives for tips.=20
Some people (W2UP, K3WW) have mentioned using MPEG level 3 which =
could record the entire contest in under 400MB. This has the added =
benefit of fitting on a CD for more permanent archive. However, I do =
not have an MPEG choice under Writelog for compression options. Is this =
a function of Writelog or the sound card I am using?=20
Assuming that I cannot use MPEG, what other settings have other =
people used successfully that could fit in 800MB. This is about 4KB/sec =
I have tried a few and one of the Microsoft ADPCM options =
sounded best for 4KB/Sec. I suppose another option is to record it with =
high quality and try to compress it afterwards with software but I =
suspect that will be a long job.=20
Thanks for your help,=20
Tom W2SC (8P5A or 8P1A next weekend)
Gil Baron http://members.home.com/gbaron
W0MN 44.08208 N 92.51263 W 1055'
"Baila como nadie te ve"=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We do routinely reocrd the entire =
contest for all=20
three stations here at KV1W M/M.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The point is not to listen to it, =
although it does=20
provide interesting background for the prep and cheerleading sessions to =
get=20
psyched.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The point is that WL provides the =
proper indexing=20
to listen to individual contacts either during the contest of later. We =
find it=20
really interesting for review of the UBN data. Most of the times it is=20
interesting to see how mistakes were made.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck to all in WW</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ric KV1W</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:gbaron@home.com" title=3Dgbaron@home.com>Gil =
Baron</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:tgeorgen@lsil.com"=20
title=3Dtgeorgen@lsil.com>Georgens, Tom</A> ; <A =
href=3D"mailto:va3na@rac.ca"=20
title=3Dva3na@rac.ca>'Nick Lekic'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:'writelog@contesting.com'"=20
title=3Dwritelog@contesting.com>'writelog@contesting.com'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 22, 2001=20
11:11</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [WriteLog] =
Recording=20
question</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Who is ever gong to listen to 24 hours of recorded =
contest=20
again anyway. I sure don't see any reason to record a contest. You =
will never=20
find what you are looking for anyhow as there is no such thing as =
audio=20
search.<BR><BR>I guess I just don't get it?<BR><BR><BR>At 23:06 =
10/21/2001,=20
Georgens, Tom wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite type=3D"cite"><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3Darial=20
size=3D2>Nick -</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3Darial size=3D2>You=20
are right on the mark!</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3Darial=20
size=3D2>I downloaded WMP 7.1 and the the coding algorithms =
appeared. By=20
my calculations, an 800 MB CD will tolerate about =
4.6KB/second. =20
Allowing for an extra hour and 740 MB CD's, anything that records at =
or=20
below 4KB/s should be fine.</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3Darial size=3D2>Not having a station at home, I am playing on =
of my=20
daughter's CD's on my wife's PC to generate something to =
record. The=20
highest performance Mono setting sounds pretty good and generates=20
3.9KB/sec. I presume that radio audio will be OK with even =
slower=20
sampling.</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3Darial =
size=3D2>If only=20
Writelog (more specifically my soundboard) could mix the mic and =
line in, it=20
would be really cool</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3Darial=20
size=3D2>Thanks for your help</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3Darial size=3D2>73 Tom W2SC</FONT><BR> =20
<DL><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman, Times" size=3D2>
<DD>-----Original Message-----=20
<DD>From:</B> Nick Lekic [<A href=3D"mailto:va3na@rac.ca"=20
eudora=3D"autourl">mailto:va3na@rac.ca</A>]=20
<DD>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 21, 2001 7:12 PM=20
<DD>To:</B> Georgens, Tom=20
<DD>Subject:</B> Re: [WriteLog] Recording question<BR><BR></FONT>
<DD>Hi Tom:<BR><BR>
<DD>You may have to install Windows Media Player 7.1 to get the =
MPEG 3=20
Compression format available to choose from Writelog.=20
<DD>Here, I am using 32 kBit/s 11,025 3 Kb/s MPEG-3 =
format=20
option. File for one hour of recorded audio is 14 Mb =
in=20
size. For the entire contest it comes up to 672=20
Mb. It should fit on 80 minute CD. <BR><BR>
<DD>73 and gl in test<BR><BR>
<DD>Nick, va3na <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DD>Georgens, Tom wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite type=3D"cite"><FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>
<DD>I am planning to record the WW SSB contest using Writelog =
and I have=20
been searching the archives for tips.</FONT><FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>=20
<DD>Some people (W2UP, K3WW) have mentioned using MPEG level 3 =
which=20
could record the entire contest in under 400MB. This has =
the added=20
benefit of fitting on a CD for more permanent archive. =
However, I=20
do not have an MPEG choice under Writelog for compression =
options. =20
Is this a function of Writelog or the sound card I am =
using?</FONT><FONT=20
face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
<DD>Assuming that I cannot use MPEG, what other settings have =
other=20
people used successfully that could fit in 800MB. This is =
about=20
4KB/sec</FONT><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
<DD>I have tried a few and one of the Microsoft ADPCM options =
sounded=20
best for 4KB/Sec. I suppose another option is to record it =
with=20
high quality and try to compress it afterwards with software but =
I=20
suspect that will be a long job.</FONT><FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>=20
<DD>Thanks for your help,</FONT><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
<DD>Tom W2SC (8P5A or 8P1A next=20
weekend)</FONT></DD></BLOCKQUOTE></DD></DL></BLOCKQUOTE><X-SIGSEP>
<P></X-SIGSEP>
<DL></DL><FONT face=3D"Courier New, Courier">Gil Baron <A=20
href=3D"http://members.home.com/gbaron"=20
eudora=3D"autourl">http://members.home.com/gbaron</A><BR>W0MN 44.08208 =
N=20
92.51263 W 1055'<BR>"Baila como nadie te ve"=20
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