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Re: [Amps] Safety grounding - was Mains Isolation Transformer

To: R L Measures <r@somis.org>, Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Safety grounding - was Mains Isolation Transformer
From: Peter Chadwick <g3rzp@g3rzp.wanadoo.co.uk>
Reply-to: g3rzp@g3rzp.wanadoo.co.uk
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 16:53:52 +0200 (CEST)
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I missed the message from Jim saying:
>>From my understanding of electrical codes in the UK, what you are
> doing is not only unsafe, it is also illegal. The bond between
> neutral and earth in the UK is made within the mains system, not at
> your premises. Further, it is quite important from a safety point of
> view that all your earth connections be bonded together, NOT
> separated.<<
The neutral is earthed by the electricity supply company on their pole. From 
that pole, live and neutral are treated as being 'live ' conductors, and are 
not earthed. UK supply grounds the neutral at multiple places along its run, 
while certain European countries bond the neutral to ground at each 
installation. Because I'm not on PME within the house, all the bonded stuff in 
the house has its own earth. Separation of RF earth from safety earth would 
only have much validity in the case of a lightning strike, although in fact, 
they are connected together via the screening  and one conductor of a very 
heavily armoured 4 core cable, a conductor of 6 inch wide aluminium sheet and 
numerous coax outers. It was certainly all considered OK by the very qualified 
electrical contractor who had to do a fair amount of work bringing other parts 
of the installation up to compliance with the 16th edition of the IEE Wiring 
Regs. This incidentally, included fitting Residual Current Devices (US 
 English = GFI), which trip off with small amounts of 80 and 160metre RF. A 
problem yet to be fixed......
The case of PME is a totally different matter, because of the possibility of a 
ruptured neutral. That's why I refused to have it - the electricity supply 
people get a bit shocked when you offer to show them the order published by Her 
Majesty's Stationery Office and signed by Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of 
State for Energy that says a consumer may refuse to have PME in his 
installation!
>> It IS entirely correct to treat the neutral as separate from earth.<
That's because it is!!! Much safer, too. However, some outback areas of VK land 
apparently use (or maybe used) a single wire feed and earth return.....Don't 
know what the supply regulation is like. 
About 35 years ago, I took a new 2MHz marine transceiver (I'd done the tx 
design) for a 'first fitting'. The shipyard were supposed to provide a 24v 50 
amp supply, but actually fused it at 5 amps. While waiting for them to fix it, 
the foreman was talking to me. Forgetting his broad Yorkshire accent--
"These 'ere new ships, they've got this 'ere new fangled AC on them. It's like 
DC, thee has two wires, but they keep turning rahnd!"
A somewhat startling explanation of AC theory....................

73
Peter G3RZP
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