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Re: [Amps] Minimum Value of RF Plate Chokes

To: "'Edward Swynar'" <gswynar@durham.net>, <garyschafer@comcast.net>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Minimum Value of RF Plate Chokes
From: "Alex Eban" <alexeban@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 07:22:04 +0200
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Eddy is correct!!
It is true that you can "tune out" part of the stage's output reactive
component and this is done in transistor output stages. But then, the
required load resistance is quite low, so that adding an opposite sign
reactance (smaller than normal inductive reactance) can be beneficial in
masking part of the output capacitance.  Keep in mind that this kind of
network increases its loaded "Q" and you can very quickly reach the point of
intolerable losses in the matching network, with its attendant bandwidth
reduction.
Alex    4Z5KS

-----Original Message-----
From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
Behalf Of Edward Swynar
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 6:07 PM
To: garyschafer@comcast.net; amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Minimum Value of RF Plate Chokes

On 26th February, Gary wrote:

"...Seems that with a small choke (small inductance for the frequency) the
choke is actually tuned to resonance when its reactance is a low value
compared to load impedance.
If the choke is too small for that band add extra input capacitance to the
tuned input network on the tube side to resonate the choke..."

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Hi Gary,

Many thanks for that FB explanation...however, in as much as it might make
sense to me, I STILL can't get past the notion in my head that I always
believed that a choke should be, essentially, "invisible" to the rest of the
circuitry that might accompany it...

By effectively changing the circuit values in a tank circuit to accommodate
a less-than-perfect choke, what is the fall-out going to be to the operating
parameters of the tube...? After all, we are now CHANGING computed values
for specific "Q" in the tank components, to make-up for the shortcomings of
the choke --- correct?

Also, what would happen when the final tank circuit is off-resonance
slightly --- will RF end-up back into the power supply?

Again, I may well be missing something critical here, but by having to go
through all these "gymnastics" in the values of the other parts of the
pi-tank system, it is very obvious that the presence of a "sub-standard"
choke is hardly "invisible" in the whole scheme of things, and it seems to
fly in the face of a properly-designed final pi-tank network, on a given
band...

Help me here...!

~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ


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