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Re: [Amps] Help with HL2200 6 meter conversion

To: garymyers@powerc.net, amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Help with HL2200 6 meter conversion
From: TexasRF@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 06:58:38 EST
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Hi Gary, it sounds like you are close to success on this project. 
 
On the issue of efficiency, it will be the better at higher drive  levels 
for a couple of reasons. One, as drive is lowered, the plate current  swing 
is reduced and that pushes the class of operation more in the direction of  
class A and away from class B. And two, lower plate current swing means 
higher  plate load impedance when tuned for maximum power. Higher plate load 
impedance  in turn increases the loaded Q which is accompanied by higher tank 
losses.
 
As the parasitic suppressors are in series with the rf current  flow, 
heating HAS to be a function of current squared times resistance. So  an 
increase 
of resistance will cause an increase in dissipation. If the shunt  
inductance is made smaller, more of the series rf current will flow through the 
 
inductor and that of course forces the resistor current to decrease. Since the  
dissipation is related to current squared, a 30% current reduction in the  
resistors will yield a 50% dissipation reduction.
 
73,
Gerald K5GW
 
 
In a message dated 1/21/2011 10:19:48 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
garymyers@powerc.net writes:

Hello....

I've just completed converting a Heathkit HL2200  amp, stripping all the 
tank out as well as the input ckt. I left the existing  plate tuning cap in 
and am using it as the load cap. The plate tuning cap, now  where the load cap 
was, is a 100pf variable. This was all down according to an  April '08 
article on the same. The input is a T network and it by the way  works 
perfectly 
with a 1:1 SWR. 

The suppressors are as the article  says - nichrome ribbon, 1/4" wide 
formed into a U with 3 2W carbon resistors  in parallel at its base. All 
soldered 
using silver solder for the nichrome.  All seemed to go fine. 

After installing the tank components I used a  dip meter to try and see if 
the tank coil was set right. I first confirmed the  meter setting by 
checking it on a radio set to 50.1Mhz... and then tried to  insert its coil 
into 
the limited area of the tank coil... it measured 60Mhz!  So I squeezed the 
turns together - it dropped to 54Mhz... I decided to leave  it as is and wait 
until I could power it up. 

When I first tried to run  it I was only able to get about 60W out with 
about 20W drive and the plate  tune cap was at its minimum setting... I believe 
this indicates that indeed  the coil is too much inductance (does it not?) 
and so I pulled the turns apart  as best I could. This allowed me to get 
about 350W out (with about 840W in)  with maybe 35W drive (I didn't measure 
this by itself - just going by where I  had the power set on the 746Pro). But 
very quickly, before I could increase  the input, it started to smell! The 
carbon resistors were getting VERY hot.  

I quickly removed the cover (obviously made sure the HV was 0) and  with a 
thermal gun checked the temperature of the suppression resistors - one  set 
was at about 160 deg and the other set about 125 degrees. One resistor in  
the one set appears to be higher than the others - but this might just be the 
 difficulty in checking with a thermal gun. 

So my question is: WHY are  these getting hot?! I would have thought, if 
the article said use these  resistors, that it would work fine. The U nichrome 
wire is almost identical to  the one they have pictured (mechanical picture 
for scale) in the article. Note  I couldn't find the 150 ohm resistors they 
said - I used 3 180 ohm resistors -  but I find it impossible to believe 
that it would work with 50 ohms eqv and  not 60 ohms eqv nor that the 60 ohm 
eqv should dissipate MORE power, not less.  

I'm also a bit troubled by the efficiency... but until I get this  resolved 
I'm not going to worry too much about this - however if someone  things it 
is related I'd love to hear it. 

Thanks for your  time.

Gary
K9RX

[the amp was bought from someone that said it  had been converted to 6 
meters replacing the 10 position and the other bands  still there... it didn't 
work on 6 which didn't make me happy so I decided to  rip it all out and just 
make it a 6 only amp... note however it would put out  about 1150W on 20 
meters before the change.]

ps: Also note that when I  remove the cover (the HV short is disabled) I 
get 550W out with about 800W in  but now the load cap is at its maximum  value!

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