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Re: [Amps] Ham Tests, was Price per Watt Conversation

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Ham Tests, was Price per Watt Conversation
From: "Mark Bitterlich" <markbitterlich@embarqmail.com>
Reply-to: Mark Bitterlich <markbitterlich@embarqmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 00:58:46 -0400
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"Bill Turner" <dezrat@outlook.com> said: "As he often does, Mark has missed the point about the Titanic radio operator"

Bill, I did not miss the point, I just think you're wrong. Please do not assume that the two things are synonymous.

In an emergency a level headed person will use the training he or she has received to make a logical decision to use whatever method works best to save lives. Your speculation is exactly that, speculation .... and your experience in this area is not overly conclusive. You mentioned that "Relying on CW will get people killed" . You then used as your main point that they did not have voice "back in those days" and that they would have used it had they had it. Refuting my point that survivors of the Titanic might disagree with your statement.

Ok then. How about today? How is CW used today on a regular basis as a means to save lives? I can think of a few right off the top of my head.

Are there any pilots in this AMPS-Group list? How many of you remember that you were required to identify a VOR, TACAN, or ILS using the Morse Code identifier when you got your ticket? Amazingly enough, most *ALL* still identify with their Morse Code identifier today. When a VOR, TACAN, or ILS (or even an old ADF) system is in a test or check mode, what is the means to tell pilots not to use them for navigation? Well, because when they are not reliable, the FAA removes the Morse Code identifier. Would you refer to that as being in some way impacting safety of life? I would say definitely yes. And it is done every day. Voice is readily available.... but they also still use Morse Code. Tune your HF rigs down to 190-535 KHz and please listen to all those Morse Code ADF identifiers used even today for aircraft approaches to airports. True, GPS is a lot better than ADF for heavens sake, but they are still out there, plugging away. So next time you hop into a commercial jet, please realize that the aircrew still turn up the volume and listen for the Morse Code identifier. It's a rule by the way.

Next:

Our United States Navy has periods where *ALL* RF emissions are disabled. Referred to as EMCON. During said conditions, guess how the Battle Group communicates with each other? Uhuh. Morse Code with flashing light. And they can be amazingly fast at it by the way. The U.S. Navy Signalman on the Signal Bridge is still using Morse Code flashing lights between ships. What course to set, what speed to maintain, what formation positions to form, etc. They rely on Morse Code, and amazingly enough it is not getting people killed. Just the opposite in fact. Oh, and they do have voice, they just don't connect it to a light bulb.

The statement that relying on CW will get people killed is simply incorrect. People rely on it every day .... today, now, as we speak. Now you know.


Mark
wa3jpy

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Turner" <dezrat@outlook.com>
To: "Amps group" <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] Ham Tests, was Price per Watt Conversation


As he often does, Mark has missed the point about the Titanic radio
operator.

Here it is:  The op used Morse because radio voice equipment hadn't
been installed on the Titanic. This was the era of spark, remember.

As I speculated, if good voice equipment was available, I'm sure the
op would have used it first. We'll never know.

73, Bill W6WRT

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