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Re: [Amps] Ham Tests, was Price per Watt Conversation

To: <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Ham Tests, was Price per Watt Conversation
From: <w8hw@comcast.net>
Reply-to: w8hw@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 22:09:19 -0400
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Jim, I am NOT trying to deny reality by saying the CW bands are hopping, I do hear them. Admit it, you have NEVER BEEN AT MY STATION TO KNOW different, that clearly demonstrates that you are in denial. You might do well to check the record before making statements that everyone know you have knowledge of, such as what stations I hear. I respect you, but you would do well to deal with facts and stop with unfounded opinions.

Now, lets start on a better foot... Okay...

73, Bruce, W8HW
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-----Original Message----- From: Jim Brown
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 21:36
To: amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Ham Tests, was Price per Watt Conversation

If the conversation was about EmComm, then why wasn't that listed on the
Subject Line?  :)  And how did we get to EmComm from Price per Watt
Conversation? And from there to a religious discussion of the virtues of
CW, and how discontinuing a CW requirement has destroyed ham radio. None
of which I accept. My response was to W8HW, whose perception of CW
activity differs from mine by an order of magnitude. Like I said
earlier, I'm a CW op, have been all my life. But I don't try to deny
reality by saying the CW bands are hopping when they are not.

Several days ago, I went nearly a week back in that thread to find
anything about Price per Watt! Why? Because being the son of
accountants, I wanted to add to that conversation the additional factor
of the useful life of the amplifier.

That's how I look at an investment -- if I spend $3K to buy a power amp
(or a radio), I expect it to last a while. I own three Titans that I
bought used for about $1.5K each and have used for more than ten years.
If I sell one for $1K (I should be able to get more), it's cost me $50
per year for 1.5kW. Which works out to $0.033 per year per watt. And -- if I'd bought it new around 1987 for $3K and it dies in 2017, it's cost
me $100 a year for 1.5 kW, that's $0.066 per watt per year. One of those
three amps lost it's transformer over the winter, so this is not a
hypothetical. :)

Why did I go through those examples? Because that long discussion
morphed into the service life of solid state and hollow state devices.
When we have to give up on a product because parts become unobtainium
(remember the first Ten Tec solid state amp, when Motorola discontinued
the devices only a year or two into production?)

73, Jim K9YC

On Fri,4/28/2017 6:11 PM, Carl wrote:
You might be going on 76 Jim but when you cant stay on subject I begin to wonder.

Im going on 77 and knew the subject was about emergency comms, not daydreaming in the home ham shack.


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