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Re: [CQ-Contest] Self Spotting

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self Spotting
From: "Barry " <w2up@mindspring.com>
Reply-to: w2up@mindspring.com
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 19:50:02 -0000
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
Yes and no, Tim.  Moving someone from one category to another is 
correcting an error.  Disqualifying, identifying and/or penalizing 
those individuals is enforcing a rule.
73,
Barry W2UP

On 1 Apr 2004 Tim Duffy K3LR wrote:

> This is not true, the largest DX contest has enforced packet use on
> many occasions during the past several years. A little research into
> claimed category vs. published (final results) category for several
> stations will reveal that the rules are being enforced.
> 
> 73!
> Tim K3LR
> 
> ku8e@bellsouth.net wrote:
> 
> >  Al,
> >
> >  I think the case that most have made for removing packet is that
> >  people get away with cheating (i.e claiming SO when they are SOA)
> >  and the contest sponsors
> > don't do anything about it.
> >
> >  I guess I am just old fashioned and my reason for removing it is
> >  that it makes
> > contesting for some like shooting ducks in a pond. You just point
> > and shoot. It doesn't take much skill to do that...
> >
> >                               Jeff
> >
> > >
> > > From: "Alfred J. Frugoli (KE1FO)" <frugoli@worldlinkisp.com>
> > > Date: 2004/03/31 Wed PM 08:36:09 EST
> > > To: cq-contest@contesting.com,  ku8e@bellsouth.net
> > > Subject: Re: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self Spotting
> > >
> > > KU8E wrote:
> > > >
> > > >   The packet issue has been discussed for a long time and it
> > > >   seems to me that the majority favor removing it from
> > > >   contesting.  Now it's time for the contest
> > > > sponsors to react....
> > >
> > > Whoa!  I think most favor the rules being enforced, not just doing
> > > away with packet because contesters sometimes break that rule.  If
> > > we follow that logic we should do away with the 10 minute rule,
> > > because sometimes contesters break it - we should do away with
> > > power categories, because sometimes contesters break that rule. 
> > > Where does it stop?  K1TTT has shown us techniques for identifying
> > > potential self spotters.  I think the contests sponsors need to
> > > take action on this empirical information, not the kind of "it
> > > seems to me" information you talk about.
> > >
> > > 73 de Al, KE1FO
> > >
> > >
> >
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Barry Kutner, W2UP              Internet: w2up@mindspring.com
Newtown, PA                     Frankford Radio Club
         


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