I would agree 100%. Here's my argument though. If somebody wants to get on
for an hour and point and shoot, more power to them. It's some easy q's for
both the spotted stations and the s&per. If someone is in SOA seriously
there's lots of strategy - i.e. skill - in deciding when to follow spots, when
to run etc. You're not going to win soa by pointing and shooting.
As far as using packet as a so, that used to be real tough - you could monitor
the packet chanel and see all the spots without ever having your callsign show
up on the cluster. Now with telnet clusters you don't see the spots unless
you're logged in. Those cluster sysops could provide login lists (probably
pretty easily) to contest sponsors for use in log checking. Wouldn't solve the
problem entirely, but it might help.
I think getting the sponsors to think about actually enforcing the rules is the
way to go. Too bad we can't fully trust each other anymore, but that's where
we are, so the sponsors should start takign action.
73 de Al, KE1FO
----- Original Message -----
From: ku8e@bellsouth.net
Sent: 4/1/2004 9:20:07 AM
To: frugoli@worldlinkisp.com
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self Spotting
> Al,
>
> I think the case that most have made for removing packet is that people get
> away with cheating (i.e claiming SO when they are SOA) and the contest
> sponsors
> don't do anything about it.
>
> I guess I am just old fashioned and my reason for removing it is that it
> makes
> contesting for some like shooting ducks in a pond. You just point and shoot.
> It
> doesn't take much skill to do that...
>
> Jeff
>
> >
> > From: "Alfred J. Frugoli (KE1FO)" <frugoli@worldlinkisp.com>
> > Date: 2004/03/31 Wed PM 08:36:09 EST
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com, ku8e@bellsouth.net
> > Subject: Re: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self Spotting
> >
> > KU8E wrote:
> > >
> > > The packet issue has been discussed for a long time and it seems to me
> > > that the majority favor removing it from contesting. Now it's time for
> > > the contest
> > > sponsors to react....
> >
> > Whoa! I think most favor the rules being enforced, not just doing away
> > with packet because contesters sometimes break that rule. If we follow
> > that logic we should do away with the 10 minute rule, because sometimes
> > contesters break it - we should do away with power categories, because
> > sometimes contesters break that rule. Where does it stop? K1TTT has shown
> > us techniques for identifying potential self spotters. I think the
> > contests sponsors need to take action on this empirical information, not
> > the kind of "it seems to me" information you talk about.
> >
> > 73 de Al, KE1FO
> >
> >
>
>
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