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Re: [CQ-Contest] Line Scores

To: "N7MAL" <N7MAL@CITLINK.NET>,"Ward Silver" <hwardsil@centurytel.net>,"CQ-Contest Reflector" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Line Scores
From: "George Harlem W1EBI" <w1ebi@lightband.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 14:12:27 -0500
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Statistically I seriously doubt that contesters could possibly be the 
largest QST subscriber group.  And before "taking action", you might keep in 
mind that ARRL also publishes a separate periodical aimed directly at the 
contesting community--NCJ.  Do a sprint, see your call in print...

George W1EBI

---------- Original Message -----------
From: "N7MAL" <N7MAL@CITLINK.NET>
To: "Ward Silver" <hwardsil@centurytel.net>, "CQ-Contest Reflector" <cq-
contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 19:03:31 -0000
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Line Scores

> Congratulations Ward any politician would be proud of you for being 
> able to speak out of both sides of your mouth at the same time 
> without blinking your eyes. I, still, believe there is more to the 
> contest line scores being removed than we are led to believe. 
> Contesters, as a demographic group, I suspect make up the largest 
> group of QST subscribers. If the contest community seriously wants 
> line scores back in print then there a very simple solution. 
> Organize a petition saying we will take some action against QST. and 
> in particular the advertisers. Then make sure AES, HRO, Kenwood, 
> Icom, and Yaesu all get copies of the petition. Remember first and 
> foremost QST/ARRL is a business controlled by the 'bottom-line'. If 
> we really want those line scores back, and I for one do, then hit 
> QST/ARRL right where they live, in their pocketbook.
> 
> MAL               N7MAL
> BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
> http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Ward Silver 
>   To: CQ-Contest Reflector 
>   Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 5:32 PM
>   Subject: [CQ-Contest] Line Scores
> 
>   > I concur totally-- I used to wait eagerly to see "k5ucv" even 
> with very  few Qs.  It was exciting-- recognition that I belonged. 
>  I hate it that they  do not publish  > the scores any more.
> 
>   Not picking on Rusty in particular...
> 
>   Lets be clear - the ARRL *also* hates that they can't publish line 
> scores in  QST any more.  Those pages were lost because there aren't 
> enough members and  advertising dollars to support them, the reasons 
> for which are well beyond  the scope of this discussion. Despite the 
> modern tendency to find a  conspiracy behind every grassy knoll, 
> this was not an anti-contester act.  The ARRL has been and remains 
> the world's largest sponsor of contests by a  large factor.  They 
> get an imperial ton of complaints about it, too...
> 
>   While many of us greybeards - some with entirely more salt than 
> pepper - may  cherish the printed page, for technically savvy 
> individuals under the age of  40 (i.e. - the new blood we all claim 
> to seek) the printed page is a lot  less important.  They have a 
> different set of expectations and waiting for  months and months to 
> see lines of 6-point type is a lot lower on their totem  pole.  We 
> grew up with it and it is our standard.  They did not and it is  not.
> 
>   At the time of the original announcement, a group of folks got 
> together and  took a look at contest-related information.  We wrote 
> a paper about where we  thought the information should go.
>   (http://www.designet.com/k1ir/Downloads/ContestProposal_071702.pdf)
>   This  tried to take into account the reality of publishing media 
> today.  Some  things are good in print.  Stuff that is really data - 
> like line scores -  costs too much for physical distribution in the 
> publishing environment of  today.  If you think you know so ding-
> dong much about it, go start your own  magazine and show us :-)
> 
>   Bud's comment about "feeder activities" and other's observations about
>   referencing their performance to local/regional standards point 
> the way.  The information is out there and public.  We are all known 
> presences in our  communities.  All we have to do is apply ourselves 
> by combining the data  with the crucial personal touch that made the 
> difference to us when we were  starting out.  Soon, you'll see those 
> new calls in the pileups.  I've seen  it happen right here in our 
> local club.
> 
>   It's not up to "somebody else" - it's up to YOU AND ME.
> 
>   73, Ward N0AX
> 
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