Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ tips and tricks - not

["Tonno Vahk" <tonno.vahk@mail.ee>]

I absolutely agree with Barry that plain CQ is rude and destructive.

1. Any CQ is longer than QRL or ?. It disturbes my operating much more and 
believe me, in EU there are tens of stations looking for frequency on 40m at 
night for example.

2. CQ could definitely return answers and that would cause me not hearing 
the weak station calling and furthermore the CQ guy not hearing me answering 
QSY or new CQ to him. And that has actually happened several times, really 
has, I am not making it up. Especially with semi-dx stations like strong AF 
or AS stations who are very loud in EU and get immidiate pile up after first 
CQ. I have lost frequency like that quite a few times.

3. CQ does not explain me if the station is just checking out the frequency 
or is determined to deliberately steal my frequency. Or maybe he has been on 
this frequency for long and just turned the antenna to me. I don't know how 
to answer him and what he expects. That again wastes time and is very 
inefficient.

4. For last  - a sudden 59+20 CQ into your face on the frequency where you 
have been for last 1,5 hours is very unpleasant and offending and does leave 
a bad memory and impression about the station. Not at all polite.

73
tonno
es5tv

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Turner" <dezrat1242@ispwest.com>
To: <w2up@mindspring.com>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: 16. detsember 2004. a. 3:24
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ tips and tricks - not


> On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:44:41 -0500, Barry  wrote:
>
> > I think it's bad advice and rude, and here's why:
> >
> > Let's say I'm trying to copy a weak UA9 who answered my CQ.  Fred
> > comes along and does a short CQ.  A loud DL answers him.  He doesn't
> > notice the weak UA9 sending his call for the third time to me, and
> > doesn't hear me saying QRL on backscatter through the loud DL.  He
> > makes the QSO and is ready for another call, still not knowing he
> > just usurped a frequency in use.  I lost my opportunity to work the
> > UA9 and now have to start saying QRL QRL or CQing in Fred's face to
> > try to push him off my freq.
> >
> > If he did a "QRL?" or just "?" all I need to do is respond with a
> > quick "R" rather than have the need to defend my frequency and lose
> > the QSO in progress.  Maybe it's different on the west coast...
>
> _________________________________________________________
>
> Point well taken, but I've used Fred's method for years (RTTY) and I
> don't think that scenario has ever happened.  If someone (the original
> frequency owner) jumped in with anything such as QRL, CQ or anything
> at all, I would disappear quick.
>
> The more I think about it though, the more I like the question mark,
> or maybe two or three on RTTY.
>
> I appreciate the comments.  I'll give it a try during the next
> contest.
>
> --
> Bill W6WRT
>
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