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Re: [CQ-Contest] Real Time Scoreboards

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Real Time Scoreboards
From: Robert Chudek - KØRC <k0rc@citlink.net>
Reply-to: Robert Chudek - KØRC <k0rc@pclink.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:16:53 -0500
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Please help me understand what you mean in your second sentence below.

My concept is logs would be submitted and processed by the contest sponser but 
only summary sheet information would be posted back to the internet for all to 

I don't know how you could correct your log from this limited data.

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN


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Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:06:57 +0000
From: Guy Molinari <guy_molinari@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Real Time Scoreboards
To: "Vladimir V. Sidorov" <vs_otw@rogers.com>,
<cq-contest@contesting.com>, <live@cqww.com>
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I this is an interesting idea Vlad.   The problem would be that cheaters would 
find and catch logging errors posted by others before submitting theirs.   The 
whole process would become an online auction of sorts.  ;-).   I think if the 
log deadline were shortened considerably, again this is the 21st century right? 
  This would alienate the guys sending in paper logs though (I think).   One 
way to solve this might be to shorten the log deadline.   Say you have 2 hours 
(arbitrary number) to submit for consideration and then the online results can 
be viewed subject to adjudication.    Would this be a problem for the casual 
op?   The casual guys are bread and butter right?
<soapbox mode on>
I dunno.  IMHO, this is radio contesting not a general technology competition.  
I'm a relatively younger newcomer who is a software engineer by trade.   I say 
this because I'm not afraid of computer technologies, the Internet, progress, 
etc.   I think these kind of changes have to be carefully considered.   We cant 
just say demagogically, "You are holding up progress".
</soapbox mod off>
I'm just excited to play radio over the coming weeks!
73 - Guy, N7ZG

> From: vs_otw@rogers.com> To: cq-contest@contesting.com; live@cqww.com> Date: 
> Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:10:28 -0500> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Real Time 
> Scoreboards> > Please kindly consider the 2 following ideas.> > --- Would't 
> it be better just to publish full contest results in 1-2 months > after it's 
> over? Virtually the interest to the online scores has come (IMO) > because 
> people is tired to see results of the contest only just before the > NEXT 
> YEAR'S one, when all emotions calmed down and all memories went > South...> 
> Somehow RSGB has recently released (on a perfect way BTW) results of the > 
> IOTA contest which took place less than 3 months ago...> > The CQ Contest 
> Commitee does realize that basic (OK, claimed) results can be > seen/traced 
> even ONLINE nowaydays, during the contest itself. Then why the > Commitee 
> still needs 11 months to publish official results???> It's the 21st Century, 
> gentlemen!> > > --- And another idea, never seen anywhere so far. Actually, 
> its a kind o
 f > revolution, eventually, not more not less...> > Why don't you consider the 
LOG CHECKING PROCESS traceable online?> I mean, with every log arriving to you, 
more and more logs will be checked > vs. eachother and you publish the results 
online. Like, there are 5 logs > arrived, they are cross-checked and the finner 
so far is XXX. Then there > come 100 more logs, and the winner turns to be YYY 
at this stage...> I am pretty sure, people will watch your site non-stop or at 
least will jump > into that very often. It will be such a show!... A real show. 
Nobody will > need 3830 or online scores amymore (is it good or bad, I don't 
know), > because the REAL show begins right after the contest...> It can be 
even made widely public, offered to TV or so to broadcast it every > a few 
hours or days...> > How about that?> > > Thanks and 73,> > Vladimir VE3IAE - 
EU1SA> > ---> > > > >> >> > Dear Fellow Contester,> >> > The CQ WW Contest 
Committee is discussing whether use of real-time> > c
 ontest scoreboards is likely to convey information about band> > openings and 
profitable tactics to an extent that participants using> > the scoreboards 
should be categorized as assisted. The 2006 CQ WW contest> > rules have already 
been published and they will govern the 2006 contests.> >> > We welcome your 
comments on this, and suggest the possibility of also> > sending the comments 
to the CQ-Contest reflector so that others can> > see them and possibly follow 
up.> >> > Comments can be sent to live@cqww.com> >> >> > 73> > Bob, K3EST> > CQ 
WW Director> > For the CQ WW Committee> > 
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