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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW and 0 pointers

To: "Barry" <w2up3@verizon.net>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW and 0 pointers
From: "Rick Dougherty NQ4I" <nq4i@contesting.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 16:22:46 -0400
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Hi Barry and cq reflector....I have been a strong advocate of 1 point for 
one's own country...I will out of nearly 5000 qso's have nearly 1000 zero 
pointers....some contestor's tell me its not a waste of my time...I say 
otherwise....with 5000 qso's thats and average hourly rate of 160 per 
hour.....divide 1000 by 160 and and I have wasted 6.25 hours....it falls on 
deaf ears here on this reflector...most of the     qso's who are zero 
pointers who work us in cqww think they are helping us out!! They are the 
casual contestors who hear a loud signal on the band ( and I am loud in the 
NE US...wish it were EU also!) and they stop by and call...most will call 
with 2 letters in a call sign too...so it takes another round of 
transmissions to get their call correctly...I sure don't want my UBN rate 
affected by the non-contestors who call and we bust their call!

I have even offered to fire up the station for 6 hours before the test and 
pass out zero pointers! It won't do any  good here either....it would go a 
long ways toward leveling the playing field with my NE M-M's....a great 
example of this is how much more fairer the cqwpx contest has become since 
they give one points for same country....what it really will fall back to is 
that this is still a dx contest...until I can work as many as the other 
M-M's, we will still be playing  catch up....but if I had 6.25 more hours to 
find and work other stations my score would also reflect that...go figure?

de Rick nq4i
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barry" <w2up3@verizon.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 9:14 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQWW and 0 pointers

>I just reviewed my UBN from CQWW CW and noted that I had 2 NILs from
> stateside stations.  This has happened before and I know it happens to
> many of us regularly.  We wind up losing a country and/or zone mult in
> the process.
> I know some guys, like NQ4I (he's not the one that didn't log me), have
> complained about an unusually high number of 0 pointers calling, but if
> someone calls you, you should log it.  Right?
> How about another solution to the problem, such as giving automatic
> credit for one's own country and the zones it contains?  For example, US
> guys get credit for W and zones 3, 4 and 5.  DLs get DL and zone 14, BYs
> get BY and zones 23 and 24.  Or should there be some kind of penalty to
> the non-logger, if there seems to be a pattern of non-logging of 0 
> pointers?
> Comments?
> 73,
> Barry W2UP
> -- 
> Barry Kutner, W2UP
> Newtown, PA
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