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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] FW: Getscores.org Changes/Improvements...
From: "David Robbins K1TTT" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
Reply-to: k1ttt@arrl.net
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:09:05 +0000
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Would visiting a propagation site like:
http://lu9da.dyndns.org/www/prop.html
or g7rau's live muf, or any of the other real time propagation sites make
you a multi op?  
how about looking in on my webcams and seeing if we have an operator on a
particular band?

David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Richard DiDonna NN3W
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 18:05
> To: Andrew Faber; Pete Smith; CQ-Contest@Contesting.COM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] FW: Getscores.org Changes/Improvements...
> 
> Andy, you just hit my fundamental objection to GetScores.  I completely
> missed the CQWW SSB opening on 10 meters this year.  I heard stations
> working guys, but didnt work any of the Sporadic E into Europe.  Had a ham
> been looking at W3LPL's or KC1XX's or K1TTTs scores and saw rapid
> movements in 10 meters, do you think that peson could have dumped radio 2
> on 10 meters or moved to 10 all together?  Absolutely.
> 
> I would propose that the get scores be limited to ONLY raw score or, at
> most, QSOs and mults.  No band breakdowns.
> 
> 73 Rich NN3W
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Faber" <andrew.faber@gte.net>
> To: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>; <CQ-Contest@Contesting.COM>
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] FW: Getscores.org Changes/Improvements...
> 
> 
> > Would the use of a realtime scoreboard make one a multi-op?  For
> example, in
> > NAQP CW, I completely missed the 10m opening in the second hour (I was
> > having too much fun and stupidly didn't check 10 on my second radio
> until
> > after the opening was over).  If I had been monitoring a realtime
> scoreboard
> > that showed others making Qs on 10, I would have been alerted to the
> opening
> > and would have changed my strategy.  But that isn't very different than
> > monitoring packet spots to look for openings, which would put you in an
> > assisted category (or multi-op in NAQP, I suspect).
> >  73, andy, ae6y
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
> > To: <CQ-Contest@Contesting.COM>
> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] FW: Getscores.org Changes/Improvements...
> >
> >
> >> Dave and I have pretty much agreed to disagree about this, but I think
> >> that
> >> one disincentive to top ops using the scoreboard is that there is, at
> >> present, no option to withhold band-by-band QSO and Mult numbers.  Some
> >> people apparently are using a logging program that sends zeros for
> these
> >> numbers, either as an option or as the default, and some of the top
> >> scorers
> >> who *are* using the scoreboard appear to use this logging software.
> Other
> >> software (notably N1MM Logger) sends all the band by-band numbers.
> >>
> >> Why does this matter?  I submit that many top contesters are highly
> >> competitive and take the prospect of giving away their strategy very
> >> seriously.  Dave argues that if you're paying *that* close attention to
> >> your competition's scoreboard numbers you're gonna lose anyhow.  That
> may
> >> be, but the counter argument would be "why take the chance?"
> >>
> >> 73, Pete N4ZR
> >>
> >> At 07:30 PM 1/17/2008, David Robbins K1TTT wrote:
> >>>Sorry if this is a dupe, but I didn't see it come through on cq-
> contest.
> >>>Gerry has done some more work on getscores.org as detailed below.
> Right
> >>>now
> >>>it is running as if both naqp ssb and jan vhf are in progress if you
> want
> >>>to
> >>>test.  Sometime either tomorrow night or Saturday morning after we are
> >>>done
> >>>testing it will switch back to the proper start times to clear out the
> >>>testing scores.
> >>>
> >>>Personally I would sure like to see more of the big m/m and other top
> >>>scorers get into this.  Even if you don't want to watch for yourself,
> its
> >>>interesting for those of us who do to have a big target to shoot for!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>David Robbins K1TTT
> >>>e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> >>>web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> >>>AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: yccc-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:yccc-bounces@contesting.com]
> On
> >>>Behalf Of Gerry Hull
> >>>Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 05:36
> >>>To: CQ-Contest Reflector; YCCC
> >>>Subject: [YCCC] Getscores.org Changes/Improvements...
> >>>
> >>>Thanks to a lot of feedback from the community, I've implemented a few
> >>>changes to increase functionality:
> >>>
> >>>The scoreboard will now track more than one contest at a time.   This
> is
> >>>important for weekends like the upcoming one,
> >>>where we have two popular contests -- NAQP and ARRL VHF.    Now, choose
> >>>your
> >>>contest and go ahead and post.
> >>>
> >>>The "testing" page has been modified to show all fields, including the
> >>>contest name.  It will be pre-pended with [TEST] if you post outside
> the
> >>>valid contest hours (UTC) for a specific contest.   If you want to test
> >>>that
> >>>your scoring to the site properly, just fire up your logger, post a
> score,
> >>>and take a look at http://www.getscores.org/testing.aspx.
> >>>
> >>>There are some challenges left -- VHF multiplier breakdowns are still
> an
> >>>issue (you'll see a dash right now);  and, though it is a great
> contest,
> >>>the
> >>>Stew Perry is a challenge for both this site and loggers, as far as
> >>>reporting goes.
> >>>
> >>>Activity continues to increase...   What a blast to watch the big guns
> and
> >>>little pistols compete!
> >>>
> >>>I look forward to your feedback and seeing you on the air -- and on
> >>>getscores!
> >>>
> >>>A big THANKS to Dave, K1TTT, who has been a constant supporter and
> >>>champion
> >>>for this site!
> >>>
> >>>73,
> >>>
> >>>Gerry, W1VE/6Y6C
> >>>_______________________________________________
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> >>>
> >>>
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