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Re: [CQ-Contest] A new "DX cluster" experience for contesters

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A new "DX cluster" experience for contesters
From: Idle-Tyme <nss@mwt.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 16:25:36 -0500
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On 4/18/2010 1:52 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
> So ... when will you be taking down your yagis and putting up a
> ground-mounted multi-band vertical?  Or trading in your current rig for
> a TS-520?  Or going back to paper logging?  Or going back to a straight
> key?
>    
No see that is still all in the chain between me, logging, my radio, 
antennas, and RF.
> You tell me where you draw the line that defines someone as being "less
> of an operator" (other than simply being different than you do it).  In
> my opinion, that kind of value judgment has no place in our hobby.  It's
> just a different category of operation.
>
> Dave   AB7E   (who by the way strongly prefers to operate unassisted)
>    
And thats good too.  And In my opinion you probably have some better 
skills,  than those that do not.

I mean really?  I'm in a contest  twisting the big knob looking for new 
stations.. or new mltipliers.  you have cruised the band twice now and 
only made 4 contacts because you havent heard anything new mult or qso 
possibilities.  so you go back to cqing and thats it.  If you missed 
them because you just happen to tune past them when they were not 
talking oh well.

Then go the other way,  your cqing and cqing,  thee run is going good.  
and after ten minutes you see it's slowing down and you look at this,
http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/img/wiki_up/Avail1a.png
and this,
http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/img/wiki_up/BandmapWindow2.gif
And start clicking on calls and work all these new stations and 
multipliers,  then you notice that while youre on 20 right now, You look 
at this
http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/img/wiki_up/Avail1a.png
and see it would be a good time to try 40.


Without the wired internet you would not have known al;l this  unless 
you went and hunted for it.  what skill does it take to see a red call 
and say wow I need that one and click.  you don't even have to twist the 
big knob.

this takes lots of skill laving a list to click on.

It's just like the google of the ham bands it shows you whats available 
by simply clicking on it.  Boy thats hard.
>
>
>
>
> On 4/18/2010 9:15 AM, Idle-Tyme wrote:
>    
>> I 100% Agree!
>>
>> How about this another analogy:  To a Pure contester where no clusters,
>> or skimmers, or spotting networks,  tune the big knob to find stations =
>> body builder
>>
>> A contester that uses all this extra technology that is not radio and
>> skill based = body builder on Steroids.  Yes he's bigger (has better
>> score) but it was accomplished by artificial means.
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Driftless Zone Contesters     W9ET
>>
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>
>> On 4/18/2010 8:57 AM, Peter Sundberg wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> Well... roaming the bands "manually" to look for stations/multipliers sure
>>> makes you a better operator than when you just click the mouse on spots
>>> that computers have found and presented to you..
>>>
>>> In my eyes, yes you are less of an operator when using the RBN/cluster
>>> technology.
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter, SM2CEW
>>> www.sm2cew.com
>>>
>>>
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