it is just a contest,,,do not take it so seriously guys,,,,,,, say 73 and
qrz,,,,,,,it is to be fun!!!!!!!
zf2ah
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff AC0C <jeff@ac0c.com>
>Sent: Feb 2, 2011 4:54 PM
>To: "Rick Lindquist, WW3DE" <ww3de@comcast.net>, 'Igor Sokolov'
><ua9cdc@gmail.com>, n4zr@contesting.com, cq-contest@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest Exchange
>
>The problem with TU QRZ for a RUN station is that it burns time for late
>arriving S&P.
>
>If I'm operating unassisted, and I don't have a prior contact from the log
>spot on your frequency, then I don't know who is there.
>If you reply TU <call> then I am ready to rock and roll. In fact, if I come
>up on you and only catch your call, then I am ready to
>go. Your Q rate and my Q rate both benefit.
>
>But if you end with QRZ, either because your call is long (vs. the time to
>send QRZ) or whatever - then I need to wait for your CQ
>cycle timeout, and call again. Maybe another 10-15 seconds.
>
>Of course, if you have the guys lined up 3 deep, then it won't matter -
>someone else will jump in. But that generally does not
>happen after the first half of a contest is over, or unless there's a fresh
>spot of your call to send them your way.
>
>It seems to me that if you end TU <call>, that's about as short as you can
>make it while preserving the max info content in the
>exchange.
>
>73, Jeff ACØC
>www.ac0c.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick Lindquist, WW3DE
>Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:34 PM
>To: 'Igor Sokolov' ; n4zr@contesting.com ; cq-contest@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest Exchange
>
>My *preference* when concluding one contact and moving on to the next
>(especially in the unlikely situation [for me] that I have multiple callers)
>would be to send "TU QRZ." That way, if you just "happened" upon me, you'd
>know I was soliciting calls, and those who were waiting would know to go
>ahead. As I said, though, simply sending "TU WW3DE" also works.
>
>My point is to avoid appending "TEST" onto the end of either a CQ or when
>you solicit additional contacts from the same CQ. If you feel you MUST send
>"TEST" at the end of anything, and you're sending via the computer logger,
>speeding up the "TEST" part seems to make good sense, as W5GN has suggested.
>My reasoning here, again, is not to have my "TEST" step on the calling
>stations, who nearly always seem to start calling immediately after either
>"QRZ" or "WW3DE" in these situations.
>
>This said, I do not intend to engage in an endless debate on the "right" or
>"wrong" of my suggestions or others. Use whatever works for you. I have
>contributed my $0.02 to the conversation.
>
>Thanks & 73, Rick / WW3DE
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Igor Sokolov [mailto:ua9cdc@gmail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:04 PM
>To: Rick Lindquist, WW3DE; n4zr@contesting.com; cq-contest@contesting.com
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest Exchange
>
>> 1. TEST (or CQ) TEST WW3DE WW3DE [Avoid the inclination to add "TEST"
>> here,
>> since stations will start answering you after you send your call sign
>> twice;
>> besides, they already know you're calling CQ in the contest]
>
>Suppose I came up on your frequency after you had already sent the word
>TEST. What I hear is just your call sign. How do I know whether you are
>calling CQ or just calling someone. I think TEST after the call sign is more
>
>fruitful.
>>
>> 2. W8EXK
>>
>> 3. W8EXK 599 DE
>>
>> 4. TU 599 WV
>>
>> 5. TU QRZ [I might add "WW3DE" here or send my call sign instead of "QRZ,"
>> but avoid appending "TEST." See above.]
>
>IMHO QRZ? is redundant. When you are sure there is someone else waiting for
>you, who already knows your call, just sent TU or TU + your call. If nobody
>comes back then send your call (once or twice, depending on the rate) +
>TEST.
>When you send QRZ anyone who came up on frequency during the above QSO does
>not know who you are. and have to wait till your next call+test sequence
>(more impatient one will send ?). If you do not want them to immediately
>know your call (for pile up management reasons) just sent TU. If pile up is
>
>thin then just add your call to TU. That will allow you to work the next one
>
>in the queue and stop some passer by who will be able to check if he needs
>you.
>
>73, Igor UA9CDC
>
>
>> I hope this is more clear.
>>
>> 73, Rick / WW3DE
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rick Lindquist, WW3DE [mailto:ww3de@comcast.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 12:35 AM
>> To: Igor Sokolov
>> Cc: <n4zr@contesting.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest Exchange
>>
>> Well, as long as everyone is chiming in: The very last thing I want to
>> hear
>> in a transmission from a station soliciting contacts in any way, shape or
>> form is that station's call sign. Broke my own rule during the CQ 160 this
>> past weekend, but I didn't want to take the time to edit the macro. End
>> with
>> "test" and stations will jump in after they hear your call sign, and
>> you'll
>> almost always (well, I will) miss the calling station's ID.
>>
>> Enjoyed handing out a few DE Qs, but even better was working DE myself! I
>> worked two DC stations before finally working my own state.
>>
>> 73, Rick / WW3DE
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 0:07, "Igor Sokolov" <ua9cdc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Pete and all,
>>> Being on the S&P side I would rather hear
>>>
>>> N4ZR N4ZR test
>>> instead of
>>> CQ TEST N4ZR TEST
>>>
>>> For me to know your call sign is more important then the word TEST given
>>> twice :)
>>> And please please no /QRP This is not part of the call.
>>>
>>> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
>>> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 3:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest Exchange
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm a sucker for a good hypothetical, Joe.
>>>>
>>>> Here's how I think it should go:
>>>>
>>>> CQ TEST N4ZR TEST
>>>> P5AL
>>>> P5AL 5NN WV
>>>> TU 5NN 100
>>>> TU N4ZR
>>>>
>>>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>>>>
>>>> The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at
>>>> www.conteststations.com
>>>> The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at
>>>> reversebeacon.blogspot.com,
>>>> spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/1/2011 10:36 AM, Joe wrote:
>>>>> This was lightly touched on a while ago. But today it got me to
>>>>> thinking. What is the best exchange out there?
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean really, what now days do you expect to hear so you can maximize
>>>>> your ability to copy the information, and make max QSO rates?
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember the conversation here about none of the not needed "Thank
>>>>> You" or "Please Copy" stuff on Phone.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I remember in the 70's on CW the BK was sent at the end of every
>>>>> transmission to let the other station know it's being turned over to
>>>>> them now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Like sent in CW "K9XYZ UR 5NN WI BK"
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't remember the last time I heard a BK,
>>>>>
>>>>> Or like in Field Day as an example in the 70's again, Like the end of
>>>>> a
>>>>> contact would have been something like
>>>>>
>>>>> "K9XYZ RR TU QRZ FD DE WB9SBD K
>>>>>
>>>>> I know nothing like this happens anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>> So say with the up coming ARRL CW DX Contest, the exchange is,
>>>>>
>>>>> W/VE: RST + (state/province)
>>>>> non-W/VE: RST + power
>>>>>
>>>>> Whats everyone thoughts of what you would wish everyone would use as a
>>>>> format on a typical QSO?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm curious to see the possible wide variances of what people would
>>>>> like
>>>>> to hear.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe WB9SBD
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