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Re: [CQ-Contest] Fw: [RRDXA] E73M - I have cheated

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fw: [RRDXA] E73M - I have cheated
From: Zrinko Zibert <ve3zik@googlemail.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:46:52 +0200
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Hi all,

it is more than 0.1 %.
Everybody knows that.
Almost everybody ignore it.

73, Zik DK8ZZ, VE3ZIK, YT3ZZ



2011/8/20 Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd@charter.net>

> Don has made some very good points.
>
> The Contest sponsors do not have magical powers to detect power cheating.
> You cannot assume the sponsor will be able to determine if a station is
> cheating in this way.  The best way to help is to report your suspicions,
> or
> better, to provide evidence.  These "suspicions" are very helpful to the
> sponsor in knowing where to look for more information.
>
> Power cheating is the steroids of ham radio contesting.  Anyone who looks
> away or ignores the problem is not helping the sport and stealing something
> from all of us.
>
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
> > bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Don Field
> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:46 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fw: [RRDXA] E73M - I have cheated
> >
> > As manager for the IOTA contest, I feel I should comment. We dealt with
> > one station who repeatedly entered QRP and had scores typically 50%
> higher
> > than other QRP entrants. He no longer participates. We were able to do
> > this because we had corroborating evidence from the country concerned
> that
> > he was indeed running substantially more than QRP. But it took a couple
> of
> > years to get to the point where we were sure.
> >
> > So I am not clear how Kostas expected us to identify Low Power entrants
> > who were using high power (other than one that posted a photo on their
> > website with linear in full view :-)  ). Contest organisers need to be
> fed
> > the necessary information, and need to have evidence - there are too many
> > people nowadays ready to threaten legal action if their integrity is
> > impugned. That said, it is getting easier with the RBN network to make
> > comparisons between stations geographically close, but even then there
> are
> > big variations in site, antenna orientation, etc.
> >
> > That said, it's a pity if anyone stops participating because they feel
> the
> > organisers are not coming down hard on such cheats. It comes down to why
> > you participate in the first place. Is it purely to win? Is it to have
> fun
> > and run some pile-ups. Is it (in the case of the IOTA contest) to work
> > some new islands? There are several possible motivations. Some want to
> win
> > at all costs. Some never expect to win, but they actually make these
> > contests work
> > - without the "participants" (the "also rans", call them what you will)
> > the serious entrants would have a very thin time indeed!
> >
> > Don G3XTT
> > IOTA COntest Manager
> >
> > On 18 August 2011 17:42, Kostas Stamatis <sv1dpi@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >
> > > I have lost from others SV cheating this way.... I knew that they had
> > > amplifiers and sent their log as Low power. What could i do? I was
> > > expecting RSGB (it was a previous iota  contest) to catch them.
> > > Unfortunately nothing.
> > > So i stopped participating on iota contest. Which is the next one? I
> > > don't know if i must stop contesting at all or i should buy a bigger
> > amplifier...
> > > CQ and ARRL can not understand that if they continue to follow this
> > > policy their contests will loose popularity? They can not see that
> > > Russian, Slovenian and others contests gain popularity because the
> > > sponsors trying hard (and do it) to catch cheaters? This is the most
> > > important thing and they keep trying to have good public relations and
> > > not correct things. Even penalties for cheaters are not big. Just my
> > opinion.
> > >
> > > 73 kostas SV1DPI
> > >
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