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Re: [CQ-Contest] Determining ASSISTED vs NON-ASSISTED -- was: =>RE:Chea

To: "Igor Sokolov" <ua9cdc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Determining ASSISTED vs NON-ASSISTED -- was: =>RE:Chea
From: w5ov@w5ov.com
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:33:53 -0400
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Actually, it is.

You have to have both locating AND identifying components performed by the
operator.

Of course, with digital modes, a decoder (a machine of some sort) is
required as very few operators can decode RTTY or PSK (as just two 
examples) just with their ears.

I think that for digital signals, if you are single op - without
assistance, that the decoder should be single-channel (decoding just one
signal at a time) and require that the operator select (tune in) a signal
to begin the decoding process.

IMO, a device like skimmer for CW (or something similar that does Digital
modes), that simultaneously decodes all signals within a passband is
clearly different and its use should be considered assisted operating for
those modes as well.

73,

Bob W5OV


> Bob,
> Your explanation is not universal.
> What about RTTY or PSK contests where "machine identifies every callsign"?
>
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Naumann" <W5OV@W5OV.COM>
> To: "'Joe'" <nss@mwt.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Determining ASSISTED vs NON-ASSISTED -- was:
> =>RE:Chea
>
>
>> Joe,
>>
>> You've lost the focus on what single operator means.
>>
>> It means that one operator *locates AND identifies* every callsign that
>> he
>> puts in his log.
>>
>> No machine does it for him (local or remote makes no difference), nor
>> any
>> other person.
>>
>> When you focus on what single op means, it becomes very easy to see what
>> should be considered as assisted.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Bob W5OV
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe
>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 10:41 AM
>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Determining ASSISTED vs NON-ASSISTED -- was:
>> =>RE:
>> Chea
>>
>> I never understand why this is always soo hard.
>>
>> Assisted,
>> Another person or machine OUTSIDE your station helped you make or find
>> contacts.
>>
>> Machine INSIDE your station is just that station equipment Not assisted.
>>
>> Person INSIDE your station helps you is also not called Assisted,  but
>> it IS called MULTIOP
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>>
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
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>>
>> On 9/26/2011 4:54 AM, Marijan Miletic, S56A wrote:
>>> EI5DI wrote: To this I say that anyone who needs a CW decoder has no
>>> business being in a CW contest - because they don't know CW.
>>>
>>> I don't know Baudot code so I used PC decoder this fabulous CQ WW RTTY
>>> weekend.  I built DH1TW type SDR IF adapter in my FT-1000MP in order to
>>> "see" 20 kHz bandwidth.  I also wrote my own program to decode all RTTY
>>> callsigns within BUT if I use it, I am "assisted".  By whom?
>>>
>>> I feel digitally "restricted" without Extreme class :-(  This is NOT
>>> good
>>> for the best scientific hobby of 21st century as advertised by IARU.
>>>
>>> 73 de Mario, S56A, N1YU
>>>
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