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Re: [CQ-Contest] CHECKLOGS -- another view CQWW-wise

To: "'James Cain'" <jamesdavidcain@gmail.com>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CHECKLOGS -- another view CQWW-wise
From: "Bill Parry" <bparry@rgv.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:39:50 -0600
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I support this idea. I always upload my logs to LOTW whether I enter the
contest or not. I feel like that the ARRL has never been entirely on board
with LOTW. We were promised that other awards would be added and this has
never happened. The fact is that LOTW does generate money for the ARRL.  I
know that I upload all my band/countries now, but would have never sent in
the QSL cards because it is too much of a hassle. Every time a submittal is
made with cards, the ARRL makes money that it would not have made otherwise,
plus the update goes straight to the computer and does have to be entered by
hand...so much less overhead. I have talked this over with my Director and I
believe that the directors are irritated that this outstanding service is so
underutilized. A new IT guy was hired not too long ago to try and make
improvements and all I have seen is more of the same or even less!

I think that DXers and contesters should start putting pressure on their
directors to have the performance and scope of LOTW massively improved...but
that is just me.

Bill W5VX 

-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of James Cain
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 2:27 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CHECKLOGS -- another view CQWW-wise

Great idea, below, and it's come up before. The practice applied only to
DXCC and I'm certain that it had to be abandoned because it was an
administrative, time-consuming, nightmare at arrl hq. 

The Great Leap Forward would be to find a way to fully integrate, 100 per
cent, contest logs submitted and LotW -- surely this would encourage more
participation in both programs. If they could find a way around the LotW
"certification" issue they could simply roll contest logs right over into
LotW. Your U.S. county would have to be added to the Cabrillo contest log
header.

Anybody who objected to his contest log automatically going into LotW could
simply opt out of it. Make it a log header 

LOTW:   YES
or
LOTW:   NO

How to make this happen? Don't bother with the volunteer advisory
committees. Go directly to your director and convince him or her that this
could be a money-maker for the league. Mention that DXCC and contests are
the league's most popular programs and generate a lot of good will for them
(a few pig farmers and boaters excepted, of course).

ARRL doesn't make a dime on contests; it does (I think) make a few pennies
on DXCC and WAS submissions via LotW. At least I hope they do -- they have
to make a few somewhere, after all.

There might be a downside to this proposal somewhere and I am absolutely
certain that I will be apprised of it.

Jim Cain
At The K1TN Superstation
Whiteout, Wisconsin

>"If you really want more logs, revive the practice ARRL had back in the
70s, and allow credit toward >any awards you have, for QSOs that are in both
logs.  CQ could do it for WAZ and show the way.  The >BS about security and
cheating is just that. -- 73, Pete N4ZR"
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