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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote contest operation
From: "mw1lcr@elsasystems.co.uk" <mw1lcr@elsasystems.co.uk>
Reply-to: mw1lcr@elsasystems.co.uk
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 12:11:34 -0400
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If its of any interest, I use VPN over SSL  to access a Windows XP
Workstation in my Shack. The XP Workstation is running Remote Desktop and I
pipe the audio down the connection as well.

This way I can control my PC, Radio and mostly anything else from pretty
much anywhere.

The advantage being I don't need to install any specialist software, and I
can usually gain access from anywhere, Internet Cafe's, Hotel Rooms etc.

You'll need to make sure you can configure your Internet facing firewall to
accept incoming packets on specific ports and your ISP will allow this. 

You could also use Dyn DNS to point back from the internet as well. Plenty
of stuff on the web explaining how to do it.

Biggest issue I found was Internet Latency. At the shack end I have the
choice of either Satellite Internet which gives me High Bandwidth and High
Latency (around 900mS round trip) or Low Bandwidth and Low Latency (130mS
round trip) ADSL. I generally use the ADSL connection prefering poor
graphic quality than high latency at the remote end. The Router I use
manages the connections   and provides fail over to 3G should the
connections fail. The Router is a Draytek Vigor 2830n.    

Cheers

Adrian MW1LCR / GW9X 



Original Message:
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From: Gerry Hull gerry@yccc.org
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:12:51 -0400
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote contest operation


If throughput is not the issue, but rather restrictive ISPs, then I would
recommend a peer-to-peer VPN, and there are two free solutions.   Hamachi
(from www.logmein.com), free for more than enough users.  Simple to set up,
central config and client download, works on all Windows OS and Linux.
 When running Hamachi, each end can see every port on a participating
client (as long as firewall does not restrict), so no worries about ISP
port restrictions.

The second one I recommend is Neorouter (www.neorouter.com).  They have
free server and client software.   What I did was rent a small Linux VPS on
the net (~$10 - $12/year -- see www.lowendbox.com) to host my neorouter
server.  This gives it a public IP and guaranteed to be up.  Then, al; the
clients I want connect and can see each other.   This is great for contests
were geographically diverse multis are allowed (such as HQ stations in
IARU).


73,

Gerry W1VE

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:16 AM, C. "Fred" Johnson
<fredwt2p@gmail.com>wrote:

> One approach you could try if you're on a restrictive ISP such as comcast
> is getting a VPS (I use linode and openvpn to route all traffic from home
> to the tunnel and then out to the net).. Comcast only sees encrypted
> traffic (thus they think you're on a work VPN) to your VPS... Works well..
> Upgraded speeds will help if your ISP is employing any kind of packet
> inspection or throttling. I just finally got the kinks worked out here...
>
> 73,
> WT2P
>
> On 4/9/13 8:26 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
>
>> Comcast just doubled their speeds at least in the Denver area.  We are
>> now getting 56mb download speeds and around 11mb up.
>>
>> K6VVA was running a similar setup maybe Rick will chime in.
>>
>> Mike W0MU
>>
>> On 4/9/2013 5:42 PM, Barry wrote:
>>
>>> I tried some remote operation in the 10m contest using a TS480 and
>>> Remoterig.  The radio control worked fine, but we had lots of problems
with
>>> dropped dits, timing problems, etc. on CW, presumably due to dropped
>>> packets and/or latency issues.  I don't know if it's my particular
network
>>> or a common problem, but I've heard others using Comcast as an ISP
having
>>> similar issues.
>>>
>>> I wonder if anyone has had success using some other remote system for CW
>>> contesting.
>>>
>>> Tnx,
>>> Barry W2UP
>>>
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