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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Clarification from DL1MGB
From: 4O3A <4o3a@t-com.me>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 18:49:48 +0100
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Hi Martin and Frank,

I really appreciate different opinions, and will answers you as simple as possible.

I do not thing that difference Unassisted vs Assisted is step forward in contesting. It is just a right valuating of those two categories, *when we are disusing WRTC qualifications*, event which is example of pure unassisted operation. This is a point.

You are mixing two different issues - categories and cheating with packet cluster. Cheating is separate issue and does not have anything with proposals regarding Unassisted vs Assisted. With equating those category (and those two operations are simply very different - assisted will produce much higher scores, so they are incomparable) you will just virtually solve one problem, but impact will create worse situation. I see it as good intention, understand the point, but tool/solution you propose is wrong.

Frank said:
"Improvement and advancing technology has always been an important part in Ham Radio, as well as true sportsmanship for contests, especially in WRTC."

I agree 120%
Unlikely, we had and will have probably next WRTC without enough rooms for showing newest technological ideas. In Boston all was forbidden. Personally, I would like to see the rules like - One signal per time and you do whatever you can/like/want. It could be a really big step forward. We will see what DL guys will decide about WRTC competition rules?

Again, Unass vs ASS is just a right valuating of those two categories, *when we are disusing WRTC qualifications, *not contesting in generally*

*73
Ranko*
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On 12/19/2014 4:51 PM, Martin , LU5DX wrote:
Dear Ranko,
Some of us have explained and given our reasons as to why we don't think this change is a step forward. So far, those who believe this is a step forward, mainly state their reason why being: Single ops can continue to enter as single ops without DX assistance.
Is that the reason why you think this change is a step forward too?
The right adjudication of the results and eliminating one of the most undetectables ways of cheating doesn't cout at all to you (and others who think likewise)? I would really like to hear your analysis about this "big step forward" and how it contributes to making contesting a better "sport".

Thanks in advance.

Vy 73,
Martin, LU5DX

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 8:58 AM, 4O3A <4o3a@t-com.me <mailto:4o3a@t-com.me>> wrote:

    Dear Chris,

    nice that you consider our opinions.

    Intention is not to criticize. On the contrary, we all want to
    help you to make rules to be as good as possible, and I am sure -
    it is our common interest.
    Organizers should take advantage of our
    observations/opinions/suggestions and to correct them all. You
    made one important step forward, and should do your the best to
    have rules really good ones.

    73
    Ranko
    On 12/18/2014 3:29 PM, Christian Janssen DL1MGB wrote:

        Hello,

        after reviewing the discussions and the criticism we received
        from contesters worldwide, we had an internal discussion and
        decided the following changes.

        We will split the Single Operator categories into Unassisted
        and Assisted. Unassisted Single Operators will still have a
        weighting factor of 1.0. Assisted Single Operators weighting
        factor will be changed to 0.9. The reduced weighting factor
        accomodates the fact that there will be no assisted operation
        during the WRTC competition in 2018.

        All other rules stay unchanged and are final. Please
        understand that further changes of the qualifying rules would
        have a deep impact on the balance of the rules requiring the
        re-design of the entire rule system from scratch.

        The latest version of the qualifying rules can be downloaded
        at http://www.wrtc2018.de.

        Good luck to all qualifiers! Nearly two months to go!

        73s Chris DL1MGB
        President WRTC2018 Organizing Committee
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