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Re: [CQ-Contest] Future of Paper Certificates

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Future of Paper Certificates
From: "Bill Parry" <bparry@rgv.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 05:45:17 -0500
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I have seen some interesting ideas posted regarding certificates. I think
that making the certificates available on the internet is just fine. Those
folks that get an exalted position can get a plaque. No need to spend a
bunch of money on postage for me. I do think that CQ Magazine needs to be
careful about how they deal with the contests that they sponsor. Some of
their of their most avid supporters and long time subscribers have supported
CQ through thick and thin because of their sponsorship of contests
(particularly the CQWWDX Contests). I strongly believe that the elimination
of these contests by CQ would be the death knell of the magazine. 

Bill W5VX

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AB2E Darrell
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 1:03 PM
To: ve4xt@mymts.net
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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Future of Paper Certificates

I think Kelly has a very good point here about maintaining certificates for
the first-time winners. In my early contesting years, it was really great to
get a certificate for something in the mail (still is, actually).
Otherwise, the ability to download and print your own is a nice feature.
This works especially great for any multi operation (all the ops can just go
in the database and download their certificate). 
I don't mind if CQ saves some postage in the process.
You could either charge the others to still receive one as suggested, or
just do away with them. The premium certificate is a nice idea too. I would
be willing to pay for a "premium" certificate.
73 Darrell AB2E


> From: ve4xt@mymts.net
> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 10:19:45 -0500
> To: r_bakalov@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Future of Paper Certificates
> CC: cq-contest@contesting.com
> 
> Send first-time winners a certificate for free. Charge others enough to
cover the free ones, too.
> 
> Or: look at it as a money-maker. Surely, if ICOM can sponsor unsponsored
ARRL plaques, Yaesu or Kenwood or Elecraft or Acom or even DX Engineering or
HRO may be interested in sponsoring certificates. Charge cost plus to put
some money in WWROF coffers.
> 
> Offer to sell "premium" framed certificates to some operators and use the
profits to fund WWROF activities or the free first-timer certificates.
> 
> 73, Kelly
> ve4xt
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Aug 30, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Rudy Bakalov via CQ-Contest
<cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I personally don't care about a paper certificate, but do remember the
excitement of receiving my first one. In fact, it was the certificate that
encouraged me to come back to the contesting world having left it when I was
in my early 20s.
> > 
> > One thing that I genuinely don't understand is what exactly is CQ
Magazine's sponsorship? If they have a problem with mailing the certificates
then what's left?
> > 
> > The way I see things, it is the contest that is funding the magazine,
not the other way around. Without the different contests the magazine will
have no appealing contest, circulation will go down, advertisers will pull
their marketing dollars, the magazine will cease to exist.  The publishing
business is all about eyeballs and without the contests there will be no
eyeballs.
> > 
> > Rudy N2WQ
> > 
> > Sent using a tiny keyboard.  Please excuse brevity, typos, or
inappropriate autocorrect.
> > 
> > 
> >> On Aug 29, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Joe <nss@mwt.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Extremely interesting.
> >> I like the idea of the printable also.
> >> Just curious tho.
> >> With the paper they make certs, how down the scores did they go in say
2013? Where they automatically sent one to someone?
> >> I just looked for the fun of it, went to CQWW and entered my call, and
it tells me all the times I entered CQWW. Pretty cool, but then I see that a
cert is there too! what?!
> >> 
> >> Aparantly I took 2nd place for CQWWSSB 10 M low power 9 land, and I
never knew it. And too bad only ran 12 hours a few more maybe one more and I
could have had 1st place! I was that close in second place.
> >> 
> >> BUT I know for sure I never got a Paper cert. so just wondering I know
things may be changing, but in say 2013, how deep in the winners listins did
they go and send out paper certs.
> >> 
> >> Joe WB9SBD
> >> Sig
> >> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> >> Idle Tyme
> >> Idle-Tyme.com
> >> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> >>> On 8/28/2015 10:01 PM, Randy Thompson K5ZD wrote:
> >>> There is an important conversation about the future of paper 
> >>> certificates happening on the CQWW blog.  Please visit 
> >>> http://cqww.com/blog/the-future-of-paper-certificates/ and add 
> >>> your opinion to the mix.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Randy Thompson, K5ZD
> >>> Director - CQ WW DX Contest
> >>> email: k5zd@cqww.com
> >>> web: www.cqww.com
> >>> Facebook: www.facebook.com/cqwwdx
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
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