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Re: [CQ-Contest] When is it OK to refuse to give out a QSO?

To: "'Maarten van Rossum'" <pd2r.maarten@gmail.com>, "'Tom Haavisto'" <kamham69@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] When is it OK to refuse to give out a QSO?
From: Michael Schulz <mschulz@creative-chaos.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 17:32:57 -0700
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It takes more time and completely destroys the rhythm when running to tell
people they are dupes or B4 than rather
work them and let the logger sort it out. Why bother? Nobody calls a dupe on
purpose which probably means they 
logged the other station wrong. So why bother with all that. Just log and
move on. But then again, technology never 
provides un-solvable problems, it's always people who f$#ck it up :).

73 Mike K5TRI

> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf
> Of Maarten van Rossum
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 8:56 AM
> To: Tom Haavisto <kamham69@gmail.com>
> Cc: xnewyorka@hotmail.com; CQ Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] When is it OK to refuse to give out a QSO?
> 
> I worked a couple of dozen dupes Sunday night because of a bad cluster
> spot. I got spotted as P14DX on 40 meters. All the dupes came from NA. I
ID
> almost each QSO and if I call "QRZ" it's never more then twice in a row.
> I made sure I signed each QSO pronouncing the call very clearly as soon as
I
> found out about the busted spot. Still a lot of dupes answered my call.
> 
> Did it frustrate me? Yes. Did anyone notice? No, I don't think so. It was
at the
> end of the contest. People are getting tired and it gets hard to
concentrate. It
> could happen to me too, it certainly has happened in the past.
> 
> The same thing goes for same country Q's.
> Don't be a lid a just work 'm.
> 
> Thank you all for the contacts this weekend, it was fun!
> 
> 73, Maarten PD2R
> (PI4DX)
> 
> 
> Op maandag 26 oktober 2015 heeft Tom Haavisto <kamham69@gmail.com>
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> > Hi John
> >
> > Please keep in mind why you decided to play radio in the first place -
> > namely - to have FUN.
> >
> > At the same time, you run into people of all types.  Some don't like
> > contesters, some have read (or mis-read) the rules, and others have
> > their own agenda...
> > If you are on the radio, you will run into these folks, and my
> > attitude is
> > - sucks to be them!
> >
> > I get folks who call me who are dupes, I get the odd bad comment in my
> > ear, and I worked a bunch of VEs - who in THIS contest are zero
> > points.  At the same time - in other contests - I want these QSO's.
> > So - work everyone, and when you run into folks who are having a bad
> > day, mis-read the rules, or just plain don't play well with other people
- well
> - move on.
> >
> > I don't have time to check lists of who's been bad, who's been good or
> > whatever.  If they call me, or I call them - in the log they go.  If
> > they don't want to be in my log - well - not much I can do about that
> > other than to move on looking for the next QSO.
> >
> > Tom - VE3CX
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 12:03 PM, John W <xnewyorka@hotmail.com
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > As I type this, I am sitting here fuming mad and deliberating on
> > > whether to keep plugging away in the CQWW SSB contest or just shut off
> the PC and
> > > radio.    Blessed with three young children (two toddlers and an
> > infant), I
> > > have extremely little time for radio these days. So I am doing a
> > > VERY
> > part
> > > time effort in the contest, yet still trying to maximize my score
> > > for the few hours I can put in.
> > > It is Sunday morning. My wife is napping with the baby, and I have
> > > gotten the kids set up in front of the TV with their favorite show
> > > and I can finally sit down at the radio without interruption.  I
> > > have made only a
> > few
> > > QSOs so far on 15m this weekend.  I just looked all over the band
> > > for
> > Zones
> > > 3 and 4.  I found K5TR calling CQ, waited until he had nobody else
> > calling
> > > him, and made a quick call, saying "W2ID for the mult".  He quickly
> > replied
> > > "W2ID 59 4", I gave the report and logged the qso and mult. QSO made
> > > and logged, all in less than 3 seconds. Thank you!
> > > Tuned around some more, and some more, and finally found N7DD for
> zone 3.
> > > Excited, I waited a few minutes until he had no callers, and then
> > > gave a quick call just as I did with K5TR.  Instead of replying with
> > > the
> > expected
> > > "W2ID 59 3", he replied with "It's a little too late in the contest
for
> > > that.  Go find a VE."   I was completely speechless, and couldn't even
> > > think of a reply before he called CQ again.  Then I replied with
> > > "I'll remember that in Sweepstakes."  He snarled back with "Yeah, you
do
> that."
> > > So not only will I remember it in Sweepstakes, so will everybody
> > > else who reads it here.
> > > Now I have spent enough time typing this that I could have made at
> > > least
> > > 15 QSOs, which would have more than compensated for the lost
> multiplier.
> > > Wondering whether I should go try and find another zone 3, or just
> > > go and watch Bob the Builder with my kids instead. At least they
> > > will take a few seconds out of their favorite TV show to talk to me...
> > > 73 & GL all (except N7DD that is),
> > > JohnW2ID
> > >
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