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Re: [CQ-Contest] what is required of recevied audio, and whay

To: Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] what is required of recevied audio, and whay
From: Martin Monsalvo - LU5DX <lu5dx@lucg.com.ar>
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 16:23:43 -0300
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Totally agree with you Mike.
73,
Martin LU5DX

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En mar 12, 2017 2:28 p. m., en 2:28 p. m., W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com> 
escribió:
>This is a case of you can't see the forest through the trees.  No 
>disrespect to Jim as he is an accomplished and respected contests.  I 
>agree that what CT1BOH, W2SC, N6MJ and others are doing is great.  
>However they are unable to do what they do without people to work and 
>those so called gimmick technologies are bringing them the people to 
>work.  Why is this so difficult to see and understand?
>
>Contest participation continues to rise, why?  I would argue that it is
>
>because of  those so called dumbed down technologies and gimmicks such 
>as packet and skimmers.  Assisted or Unassisted on CW you are getting 
>spotted.  Are you telling me that those skimmer spots do not help?  Of 
>course they do.  In fact, skimmer is the reason we are seeing crazy 
>numbers on CW.
>
>Packet has been around for a very very long time now.  I think it is as
>
>much a gimmick as automobiles are today.   So can we get past it.
>
>Packet is a very large reason we are seeing more contest activity.  
>People see spots and they go work people.  This is good!  It drags 
>people into the fray that might not otherwise get involved.  If they 
>send in a log even better!
>
>What else is bringing people into contesting?  The huge advertising 
>budget with Youtube and 30 second TV spots during the Superbowl?  The 
>million dollar prizes?  Hardly.
>
>I am unclear how N6MJ or CT1BOH is lifting us all up.  N6MJ other than 
>giving me contacts has no effect on my score.  Him being on does not 
>give me a million point bonus.  Him getting on does not bring more 
>participants to the contest, unless he has more groupies than I know
>and 
>chances are that his groupies will only work him.
>
>They have great skill and so do others.  99 percent of the participants
>
>probably do not possess this skill,money, land, equipment or desire 
>necessary to do what they do.  They need the rest of us.  Are we not 
>lifting them up?
>
>W0MU
>
>
>On 3/11/2017 4:49 PM, Jim Neiger wrote:
>> Give me a break, please.
>>
>> 1) The playing field will NEVER be level, and
>>
>> 2) Our lives and societies are already too much of "the tail wagging 
>> the dog".
>>
>> What we need more of are the talented operators like CT1BOH  and N6MJ
>
>> who are trying to lead by example and lift us all up,  rather than 
>> dumb-down our technologies and skills with gimmicks like packet and 
>> skimmers.
>>
>> Vy 73
>>
>> Jim Neiger  N6TJ
>>
>>
>> On 3/9/2017 5:42 PM, Randy Thompson K5ZD wrote:
>>> You are right.  We should fold the unassisted category into assisted
>so
>>> everyone can compete on a level playing field...
>>>
>>
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