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Re: [CQ-Contest] Self-spotting explanation from CQWW blog

To: Bob Naumann <w5ov@w5ov.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self-spotting explanation from CQWW blog
From: Ed K1EP <k1ep.list@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 20:25:05 -0400
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On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 4:36 PM, <w5ov@w5ov.com> wrote:

> OK.  That's enough.
>
> There was apparent evidence of off-air communication with VE3XIN and T48K
> in approximately 60 suspicious spots of T48K.
>

​Off air?  ESP?  Just how did this happen?  We were on an island in a
somewhat remote area with NO phone, NO internet, NO WiFi.  If you had a
satellite phone, you would be put in prison.  We submitted our cell phone
bills with detail billing information for the weekend with no evidence of
this.  But Bob claims apparent evidence.  Show us the evidence Bob. ​Bob
wants us to prove the negative.


> To confirm this and other claims of innocence, SDR recordings of T48K were
> evaluated.
>

​So off the air is now on the air.
​


> During this review, several instances of T48K requesting to be spotted
> over the air, directly in violation of the rules were noted.
>

​There were three instances of a new contester asking for spots on his
first shift in the contest.  We told him to not do it, he stopped, that was
it.  So if you break your rule, intentional or not, you are DQ?  How about
all the US stations we worked out of the US band?  Clear evidence in our
log of the frequency.  Not one US station was DQd.  ​


>
> At that point, no further investigation was necessary and the
> Disqualification confirmed.
>
> Those are the key facts of the T48K DQ.
>

​Those are not all the facts and you know it.  You are trying to justify a
bad judgment call.
​


>
> There were no hunches, feelings or other unsubstantiated reasons for the
> T48K DQ.
>

​You clearly state "apparent​".  That is a hunch.


> No "friends" spotted anyone a few times leading to a DQ.
>
> 73,
> Bob W5OV
> CQWW Contest Committee
>
>
> On Mon, April 17, 2017 1:34 pm, Ed K1EP wrote:
> > On Apr 17, 2017 2:11 PM, "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > It is indeed time for some rules changes.  You cannot be DQing people for
> >  the actions of others that we have no control over.  If you have proof
> > of collusion or cooperation great.  To tell me you can DQ me because my
> > neighbor thought he was doing something nice and spotted me a few times
> > is over the top.
> >
> >
> > Well that is exactly what KR2Q is telling you and what he has done. He
> > will DQ a station because others have spotted him without that station's
> > knowledge or consent and the station has no control over or communication
> > with the spotter.
> >
> >
> >
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