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Re: [CQ-Contest] Borrowing callsigns / location / awards?

To: Dave Edmonds <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Borrowing callsigns / location / awards?
From: Ria Jairam <rjairam@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 11:44:47 -0400
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With remote operation, guest operation and just simply not changing
your callsign when you move you really won't know. Even with well
known ops, they may just decide to hop on RHR, remotehams or a
friend's station for a weekend and work a contest.

It is what it is.

What are you going to do really? Some use it as an advantage, for
example their home and info on QRZ may be in a rare county/state and
then use a remote or guest op in an area better positioned to work
more contacts in the contest. It's not against the rules and it's
really not the biggest thing to worry about in a contest.

This is not a problem that can be solved without a rules change, and I
don't think the committee would even bother to address this.

I do think that a heavy dose of Karma comes around, that if people
know you aren't in that location, that awards chasers simply will
avoid working you this time around.

73
Ria, N2RJ

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Dave Edmonds <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> HI Guys,
>
> I just worked the WPXCW and ended up with 394 Qs on 40m. I just updating my
> contacts into my master log program..
>
> Here's my problem...
>
> With WPX and many other contest, there is no exchange of location. So, I
> have no idea where the station is located.
>
> Example...
>
> I worked KU1CW in the WPX. I uploaded my log to LOTW an I received a
> confirmed qsl. Here are the details on LOTW record.
>
> *Station* *Call Sign* WN4AFP *DXCC* UNITED STATES OF AMERICA *CQ Zone* 5 *ITU
> Zone* 8 *Grid* EM84UU *State* South Carolina (SC) *County* GREENVILLE *Worked
> Station* *Worked* KU1CW *DXCC* UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (291) *State* Kansas
> (KS) *County* JOHNSON *Date/Time* 2017-05-27 21:11:56 *Mode* CW (CW) *Band* 
> 40M
> *QSL* 2017-06-02 13:42:27
> <https://lotw.arrl.org/lotwuser/qsodetail?qso=840175882>
>
> I have just confirmed a QSO via LOTW with KU1CW located in Kansas and
> Johnson county.
>
> Did I really work Alex in Johnson county Kansas?
>
> If I needed Kansas for WAS, I now have a QSL via LOTW for Kansas.
>
> After looking at 3830scores, I learn that KU1CW callsign location was in
> Virginia.
>
> So my confirmed LOTW contact with Kansas is not valid. I can obtain a WAS
> award from the ARRL without working Kansas. By the way, this station was
> 599+ on 40m during the day... doubtful it was Kansas.
>
> Bottom line... If I'm trying to work all counties or any awards how can I
> be confident that a contact is really valid for WAS and other awards.What's
> the solution?
>
> Is KU1CW responsible for informing LOTW that on May 27/28 he was really
> operating from Virginia? I don't know where he was?
>
> Anyone else experience this problem?
>
> 73s Dave WN4AFP
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