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Re: [CQ-Contest] Borrowing callsigns / location / awards?

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Borrowing callsigns / location / awards?
From: Dave Edmonds <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 16:05:06 -0400
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HI Everyone,

I just received a note from KU1CW and he has changed his location for WPX
contacts to VA... LOTW has been updated. Problem solved!!! Still
interesting discussion.

73s Dave WN4AFP

*Station* *Call Sign* WN4AFP *DXCC* UNITED STATES OF AMERICA *CQ Zone* 5 *ITU
Zone* 8 *Grid* EM84UU *State* South Carolina (SC) *County* GREENVILLE *Worked
Station* *Worked* KU1CW *DXCC* UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (291) *CQ Zone* 5 *ITU
Zone* 8 *Grid* FM19CB *State* Virginia (VA) *County* LOUDOUN
*Date/Time* 2017-05-27
21:11:56 *Mode* CW (CW) *Band* 40M *QSL* 2017-06-02 19:28:18
<https://lotw.arrl.org/lotwuser/qsodetail?qso=840175882>

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Gerry Hull <gerry@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> The no-brainer these days is to use Clublog integration, which will update
> LOTW.   There is also the connector for N1MM that will do Clublog updates
> in real time (probably not a good idea during contests!).  We are using it
> for our VY1AAA, CI1AAA, XK150YUKON and XO1X operation, and it is fantastic!
>
> 73, Gerry W1VE
>
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Jim Brown <k9yc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > Right. I'm trustee for W6BX and KU6W, both of which get used exclusively
> > for contests, including portable setups in different counties, grids, and
> > states. I upload each log with a location file showing the right county,
> > grid, and state.
> >
> > For 7QP, W6GJB, W6JTI, and I have done multiple portable setups in
> > different counties. We signed N7N, which Glen held for the two weekends.
> I
> > used AD1C's utility to split the log into the individual counties, one
> ADIF
> > for each, and Glen did the upload to LOTW (because he held the call).
> >
> > One thing I find VERY disappointing is that most of the teams that do
> > extensive mobile operations for state QSO parties fail to put their logs
> on
> > LOTW, and fail to do what we did for 7QP.
> >
> > 73, Jim K9YC
> >
> >
> > On Fri,6/2/2017 8:19 AM, Gerry Hull wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, he is responsible.  I use W1VE and WR1ST from all the New England
> >> states, and when I upload, the log is for a specific location.
> >>
> >> 73. Gerry W1VE
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 10:45 AM Dave Edmonds <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> HI Guys,
> >>>
> >>> I just worked the WPXCW and ended up with 394 Qs on 40m. I just
> updating
> >>> my
> >>> contacts into my master log program..
> >>>
> >>> Here's my problem...
> >>>
> >>> With WPX and many other contest, there is no exchange of location. So,
> I
> >>> have no idea where the station is located.
> >>>
> >>> Example...
> >>>
> >>> I worked KU1CW in the WPX. I uploaded my log to LOTW an I received a
> >>> confirmed qsl. Here are the details on LOTW record.
> >>>
> >>> *Station* *Call Sign* WN4AFP *DXCC* UNITED STATES OF AMERICA *CQ Zone*
> 5
> >>> *ITU
> >>> Zone* 8 *Grid* EM84UU *State* South Carolina (SC) *County* GREENVILLE
> >>> *Worked
> >>> Station* *Worked* KU1CW *DXCC* UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (291) *State*
> >>> Kansas
> >>> (KS) *County* JOHNSON *Date/Time* 2017-05-27 21:11:56 *Mode* CW (CW)
> >>> *Band* 40M
> >>> *QSL* 2017-06-02 13:42:27
> >>> <https://lotw.arrl.org/lotwuser/qsodetail?qso=840175882>
> >>>
> >>> I have just confirmed a QSO via LOTW with KU1CW located in Kansas and
> >>> Johnson county.
> >>>
> >>> Did I really work Alex in Johnson county Kansas?
> >>>
> >>> If I needed Kansas for WAS, I now have a QSL via LOTW for Kansas.
> >>>
> >>> After looking at 3830scores, I learn that KU1CW callsign location was
> in
> >>> Virginia.
> >>>
> >>> So my confirmed LOTW contact with Kansas is not valid. I can obtain a
> WAS
> >>> award from the ARRL without working Kansas. By the way, this station
> was
> >>> 599+ on 40m during the day... doubtful it was Kansas.
> >>>
> >>> Bottom line... If I'm trying to work all counties or any awards how
> can I
> >>> be confident that a contact is really valid for WAS and other
> >>> awards.What's
> >>> the solution?
> >>>
> >>> Is KU1CW responsible for informing LOTW that on May 27/28 he was really
> >>> operating from Virginia? I don't know where he was?
> >>>
> >>> Anyone else experience this problem?
> >>>
> >>> 73s Dave WN4AFP
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