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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW SSB 2017 Effective DQ

To: scottmcleman36@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW SSB 2017 Effective DQ
From: "ve4xt@mymts.net" <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 07:59:35 -0600
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
It's a stupid rule that is no longer necessary.

The guy who was recently, famously DQd wasn't caught because of a recording, he 
was caught by SDR recordings of band activity.

A guy in Cypress was DQd on the basis of a voice recording that appears to have 
been circumstantial evidence at best.

Further, it's a rule predicated on the notion that one must prove one's 
innocence, rather than the committee needing to prove guilt.

Moreover, it does absolutely nothing to prove or disprove what may be more 
prevalent forms of cheating.

Get with the 21st Century, CQ. 

73, kelly, ve4xt 



Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 27, 2018, at 18:02, <scottmcleman36@gmail.com> 
> <scottmcleman36@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Doug,
> 
> Yes I do compete for fun, its nice to try beat my own scores from the past.
> If I do somehow put in a score that is up near the top of the rankings then 
> excellent.
> 
> I always abide by the rules, the rules are there to be obeyed.
> Some may say well you didn’t because you didn’t record audio... well that 
> will be wrong, because in the rule it states “if you are competing for a top 
> 5 place” well I wasn’t.
> 
> I just don’t like the fact that the result is scrubbed.
> A weekend of my life wasted to submit a score. But still renewed pleasantries 
> with over 750 stations. So for that it was worth it.
> 
> But who am I. Just a minion.
> The committee have made their decision, so we must live with it I guess.
> But it would be very nice to actually have them respond to emails regarding 
> the reasoning in asking for such recording and the reasons to come to the 
> conclusion with the decision.
> 
> We will see what comes of it. I guess I’m rabbiting on, nobody died.
> 
> 73, Scott
> MM3AWD
> 
> From: Doug Renwick
> Sent: 27 January 2018 23:01
> To: scottmcleman36@gmail.com; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] CQWW SSB 2017 Effective DQ
> 
> You say you compete for fun. Why not just leave it at that. I would just
> ignore the contest committee and tell them 'FU' for being so unreasonable.
> Compete and have fun using your rules; that is what current contesting is
> all about.
> 
> Doug
> 
> "Political correctness is a weapon used to silence people who tell the
> truth" - Ayaan Hirsi Ali 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> scottmcleman36@gmail.com
> Sent: January-27-18 9:55 AM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQWW SSB 2017 Effective DQ
> 
> So i received an email from the CQWW Contest Committee. I will be
> reclassified to an "Administrative Checklog" for the 2017 CQWW SSB Contest.
> This is because i am placing in the top 5 of the QRP Category and i did not
> make an audio recording of the contest.
> 
> This is ridiculous! i will not be listed in the results. Effectively being
> disqualified without the actual DQ label!
> 
> I did not record my audio because
> A) I did not expect to place highly
> B) I did not win or qualify for a plaque
> C) I compete for fun
> 
> Yes i could have recorded my audio, but i was not expecting to place highly.
> I went to a lot of effort to be on the air!
> To end up with nothing to show for it in the results is ridiculous.
> 
> I would have accepted this if i had placed 1st in the category or had placed
> high enough to win a plaque. but not for being in the top 5.
> Or even being reclassified into another category. Not to be effectively
> disqualified.
> 
> I think this rule really needs to be looked at!
> 
> Is this what a contester can expect in the future? to be removed from
> results, if they unexpectedly place in the top 5!?
> 
> This really makes me not want to participate in what is classed as the
> biggest contest of the calendar.
> 
> Below is the email i received from the committee.
> 
> Dear MM3AWD,
> 
> We previously requested that you submit an audio recording of yoru CQWW SSB
> 2017 contest operation, as required in the CQWW Rules.
> CQWW Rules (XII.C. Audio Recordings):
> 
> "Audio Recordings: Any single operator entrant (see V.A.1) competing for a
> top five finish at the (a) World, (b) Continent, or (c) USA levels,
> including Classic Overlay, must record the transmitted and received audio as
> heard by the operator for the duration of the contest operation. The
> recording must be in a common format (e.g., mp3) and should include the
> audio to each ear as a separate channel. The recording must be a continuous
> recording (not a recording of individual QSOs). Time "off the air" (when not
> transmitting or receiving) does not have to recorded. The recording may be
> requested by the Committee within 120 days after the log deadline to help
> adjudicate the log. The recording files must be provided by the entrant
> within 5 days of the request. If no recording is made available, the
> Committee may reclassify to an appropriate category, reclassify to
> Administrative Check Log, or disqualify the entry."
> 
> Because you did not submit the required audio recording, your entry has been
> reclassified to the Administrative Check Log category.
> 
> Your score will not be listed in the results. Your call sign will be listed
> as an Administrative Check Log.
> 
> We welcome you to participate in the CQWW contests in 2018 and sincerely
> hope to see you then.
> 
> 73's
> Bob, W5OV; Doug, KR2Q; Scott, W4PA
> Co-Directors
> CQWW Contest Committee
> 73, Scott
> MM3AWD
> 
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