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Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest Recording

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest Recording
From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 21:32:22 -0700
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Unless you are running the new waterfall feature right?  Wouldn't that sound like spot jumping?

W0MU


On 1/28/2018 2:36 PM, Ria Jairam wrote:
I think the value of recordings is more to determine whether
unassisted ops are using unclaimed assistance. If someone is tuning
they would sound differently than if they were using spots and jumping
around. It's hard to detect this with an SDR recording.

Ria
N2RJ


On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 2:22 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:
What exactly would a recording of what you received proved?  That they moved
into your spot?  It does not prove anything else.  I suspect you are trying
to say they were listening on an SDR which may or may not be true.  How
could you prove it.    Later it turns out that maybe it was conditions?
This is where things get really dicey.

Taking over someones spot is part of the game like it or not.  I watched
numerous time where East coast stations continued to creep in on me from
both sides.  Not much I can do.

W0MU



On 1/28/2018 9:27 AM, Tom Haavisto wrote:
I see there is a (continuing) controversy about contest recording. My
understanding is the for the CQWW at least, the contest is recorded from
several locations around the world by SDR receivers and then shipped to
the
contest committee.

I was very much in the camp of “Well – if the contest committee wants to
hear what happened on the air, they have the time, date and frequency, as
well as a recording if they want to hear what happened."  Until last night
in the CQ 160 contest, and no, I did not record it.

A few times, someone got pretty close to me, and in one case, started
CQing
right on top of me. Fair disclosure – I run a KW into a full size
vertical,
and these guys were LOUD.  A few times, I even checked the amp and the
wattmeter to make sure things were working, and I was starting to
seriously
wonder about a few folks...  Once, twice... OK, something odd is going
on...   A few times when I reverted to S&P, I called a few loud guys, and
it took them several tries for them to pull out my call.  This was not
normal.


As we all know, 160 is an interesting band and still pulls up a few
surprises now and then.  This being the latest example.  An SDR would not
have captured what I experienced - the only way to capture this would be a
personal recording.

Just food for thought.


Tom - VE3CX
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