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Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC looking for a new team leader

To: "rjairam@gmail.com" <rjairam@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC looking for a new team leader
From: Rudy Bakalov via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Rudy Bakalov <r_bakalov@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 17:41:50 -0400
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What exactly is the problem? WRTC candidates are limited to submitting 4 out of 
area entries. That is, out of area participation is already regulated.

Rudy N2WQ

Sent using a tiny keyboard.  Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate 
autocorrect.


> On Jun 13, 2018, at 4:53 PM, "rjairam@gmail.com" <rjairam@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Steve,
> 
> Remote operation for contesting in general is “ok.”
> 
> Where it becomes problematic is when you’re vying for placement among your
> peers in a geographic region but some of your peers operate from another
> place that is far more advantageous.
> 
> For general contesting it’s acceptable but I think for geographical WRTC
> qualification it needs to be looked at a bit further. If you truly want the
> best from a particular region to be the teams that participate in WRTC,
> then all qualifying should be done from within that region. Simple as that.
> 
> 73
> Ria, N2RJ
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 4:08 PM Stephen Bloom <sbloom@acsalaska.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> It's not quite that straightforward.  "Remoting" can mean a bunch of
>> different things.  There are the "Rent A Stations", (both Remote and In
>> Person), some of which are Professional Level revenue centers, some just
>> "helps me cover the expense of my addiction."  The in person "Rent A
>> Stations" are a great time
>> For folks who either don't have home stations, or live in less than ideal
>> locations.
>> 
>> There are also situations like mine and they are becoming quite common too.
>> I live in an urban area (yes there are some, even in Alaska), with a decent
>> station, given that situation, and I now I own a Multi/Multi Contest
>> station, about 100KM away as the crow flies.  I don't have remoting setup
>> yet, and it is *very* unlikely, that even when I do, that I will do
>> anything
>> with it commercially, or open it up to anyone other than our in person
>> regulars.  My "primary mission" is to continue the legacy of an in person
>> multi op station in KL7, in the spirit of the man who built it, who was not
>> a fan of remoting.  Having said that, once I have the capacity, no doubt
>> I'll occasionally remote in for either dx, or one of the smaller contests,
>> and I don't see how it would be any different from
>> making the short flight down there.  Likely it will involve VOIP (well
>> really CWOIP) :)  If that was an absolute disqualification, I could, with a
>> pretty heavy
>> duty investment, setup a microwave relay (and guys were doing that Fifty
>> years ago).
>> 
>> The battle (I think) you are fighting was over as soon as any type of
>> outside "Assistance" was allowed.  Things evolve, and right now they evolve
>> rapidly.
>> Packet Cluster-Skimmer-RBN-IP Remoting-Something we haven't yet thought of.
>> I was cynical about remoting, and I'm still hoping that in person remains
>> the default for Multi Ops, because there is a social element to it that
>> can't be replicated any other way.  Other than that, contesting and
>> emerging
>> digital modes are the two healthiest areas of this hobby, and especially in
>> the U.S. the Amateur Radio Demographic is aging, and increasingly not in a
>> position to set up a fully operational station at home.    We don't have
>> the
>> luxury of stagnating, even if we want to.  No doubt at some point, "What
>> station do I want to use" will became a strategy question, along with "When
>> should I take my off time."  It's different, not better, not worse.  Our
>> job
>> is to embrace that, while still doing our best to make sure that it's fun
>> for "A boy and his radio."
>> 
>> 
>> 73
>> Steve KL7SB
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> Paul O'Kane
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 1:53 AM
>> To: CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC looking for a new team leader
>> 
>> On 12/06/2018 02:37, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:
>> 
>> <snip>
>> 
>>> One cannot vilify remote ops winning our area without also vilifying
>> guest
>> ops / DXPeditions.
>>> Tim / N6WIN.
>> 
>> In general, guest ops have made a commitment in terms of time and money to
>> operate from their chosen location. In general, remote ops have made no
>> such
>> commitment, and are dependent on the internet for each and every one of
>> their contacts.
>> 
>> Radio amateurs do it (communicate with one another) with RF. Everyone else
>> needs the internet.  Or have the rules changed?
>> 
>> 73,
>> Paul EI5DI
>> 
>> Hunting In Africa
>> http://www.ei5di.com/hunting1.html
>> 
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