On 14/06/2018 02:21, Barry W2UP wrote:
We need an internet-only WRTC. That's the only way to equalize
everything. It will be sponsored by EI5DI.
That may be tongue-in-cheek but, nevertheless, it misrepresents my
position on the internet - which is "radio amateurs do it (communicate
with one another) with RF. Everyone else needs the internet."
When W2UP or anyone else needs or uses the internet to communicate with
other radio amateurs, what's happening is something other than amateur
radio. Remote operators cannot have any contacts without, typically,
using the internet to both communicate and control. And that's perfectly
OK - good for them, they're having fun and learning something new, but
that "something new" represents amateur hybrid communications.
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On 13/06/2018 Ria, N2RJ wrote:
Remote operation for contesting in general is “ok.”
That's correct, but only when remote operators, and their
hybrid-communications contacts, compete only with one another. Does
anyone believe that remote hunting is ethical? Why then should remote
contesting and award-chasing be any less unethical - unless the remote
operators are competing only with one another?
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On 14/06/2018 10:12, Jim Brown K9YC wrote:
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I'm a genuine old fart, first licensed in 1955. I try to learn
something new every day, and in the spirit of ham radio, try to share
what I've learned with others. I suggest that the bashers adopt these
objectives.
I'm nearly as old, and I respectfully suggest that FT8,
machine-to-machine, QSOs have nothing to do with the spirit of amateur
radio. Explaining this is not "bashing", merely demonstrating that the
emperor has no clothes.
Here's some automated FT8 operation - I see nothing in it to correspond
to any sensible view of the "spirit of ham radio".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50vwtGnmyd4
Here's an article by NT0Z that, I suggest, helps to put FT8 operation in
perspective.
http://ei5di.com/jt.html
73,
Paul EI5DI
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