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Re: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting

To: k5zd@charter.net
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting
From: Richard F DDonna NN3W <richnn3w@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 12:09:25 -0400
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
As is said in the courts, this is a case of first impressions.

This will be a call for the sponsors.  Dennis Egan.....please pick up the
white courtesy phone.

73 Rich NN3W

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:12 AM <k5zd@charter.net> wrote:

> I am in favor of big stations and remote operations.  Live streaming so
> others can hear what it sounds like is also good.  Promoting ham radio and
> contesting using social media is great (and needed)!
>
> I share the concerns about when the live PR effort bleeds into soliciting
> activity for the station doing this.   The rules are fairly clear that use
> of non-amateur means to solicit contacts is prohibited (written back when
> people would use the telephone to get multipliers on the air).
>
> In this case, it is impossible to measure the impact or harm.  I.e., we
> don't know how much it helped the score or if it would have changed the
> order of finish.  Even so, the rules are the rules.  It will be up to the
> sponsor to decide where they want to draw the line for their contest.
>
> Randy K5ZD
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+k5zd=charter.net@contesting.com> On
> Behalf Of Edward Sawyer
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:56 PM
> To: peter.voelpel@t-online.de; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting
>
> IF you watch the video, you will see broadcasting of frequency on the
> sidebar chats being displayed - self spotting.  Using a chat room.  And by
> asking people on line to share the feed with their friends and get on and
> work him - he is soliciting contacts by non-amateur means.
>
> Ed  N1UR
>
>
> From: Peter Voelpel [peter.voelpel@t-online.de] On Behalf Of
> dj7ww@t-online.de [dj7ww@t-online.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:24 PM
> To: Edward Sawyer; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting
>
> Ed,
>
> what numerous rules violations do you have in mind?
> So far I am not aware of any.
>
> 73
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces+dj7ww=t-online.de@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Edward Sawyer
>
> I would suggest that anyone curious take a listen to the live stream
> recording on YouTube and look at the interaction Ray has with the "live
> chat
> room" on his website with the contacts being made.
>
> Asking people to look for him on the Cluster to see where he is.
>
> Even as an assisted operation, it demonstrates numerous rules violations as
> recorded.
>
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